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I think these are what he means. It's what I used.


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Along similar lines, the transom below the waterline on the Martini is really yellow (white hull), is there anything you guy's would suggest to perhaps clean it or brighten it before doing any more sanding?? Sanding done so far has not taken any of that yellowing out??
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Along similar lines, the transom below the waterline on the Martini is really yellow (white hull), is there anything you guy's would suggest to perhaps clean it or brighten it before doing any more sanding?? Sanding done so far has not taken any of that yellowing out??

It should have CG. Nothing should brighten up the hull better than physically removing layers of oxidation and gel.. What grit did you try? Might have to more coarse, or continue to wet sand. You should see a difference...
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Yellowing as in water stains? Hull cleaner is the way to go- sanding would probably work, but 1000x harder for the same results. Ive seen plenty of oxidation at the waterline before, but its always chalky, never "yellow". Wetsanding does a good job on oxidation, if thats what youre seeing though.
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Believe it's just staining, this would be the area below the swim deck. Used some toilet bowl cleaner on all the yellow area's. Made very little difference in this area however. Anything else that might work, like bleach or something along those lines that is safe for the Gel??
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If its just a stain, on/off will take it off. Havent seen anything that it cant touch yet. I was not impressed with the toilet bowl / peroxide recipe at all... nowhere near as effective as on/off. Its muriatic acid based though, I believe- its some serious stuff so be very careful getting it on your skin or eyes, and dont let it sit long on any painted surface (like the graphics, trailer, etc).
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Along similar lines, the transom below the waterline on the Martini is really yellow (white hull), is there anything you guy's would suggest to perhaps clean it or brighten it before doing any more sanding?? Sanding done so far has not taken any of that yellowing out??


Yellowing is pretty normal for a boat in fresh water. If there is no anti-fouling paint on the hull, I use Muriatic acid to clean it. There are specific acid products for hull cleaning, they all do the same. Check for the concentration, this should be as high as possible for a quick result. Spray it on, brush it a bit and spray it off after a while. Make sure you are protected and that you are in a well ventilated area. After drying, I rub one layer of protection & sealer wax on the hull.

Sanding is a no-go for a yellow/brownish hull, the colour has penetrated into the gel coat and sanding it off will reduce gel coat that is perfectly fine.

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I think these are what he means. It's what I used.


Yes these are the ones to use!
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Quinner....Try "The Works" toilet bowl cleaner. I have never seen anything work so well as that. Pretty caustic stuff though. Handle with care. Don't let it get near any metal parts either.
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I use the works tub and shower cleaner. The price is right too!
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Originally posted by 79TiqueRebuild 79TiqueRebuild wrote:

I use the works tub and shower cleaner. The price is right too!
I get it a dollar general.     Monty


Good tip Monty
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The works dollar store toilet bowl cleaner is exactly what was used, is it possible this stuff could blister the gel??
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

The works dollar store toilet bowl cleaner is exactly what was used, is it possible this stuff could blister the gel??


My guess is Monty thought, a skid mark is a skid mark there all the same.............    
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OK I wanna make sure I am clear on what to purchase to de-yellow my hull. I have seen several sugestions. We are starting this cleaning process on Saturday so I need to know what to buy.

1) on/off will take it off. - Is this easy off oven cleaner?
2) muriatic acid based - Is there a specific product this acid is in?
3) the works tub and shower cleaner - The blister comment concerns me! Also will it de-yellow a 25 year old hull.
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All Jokes apart .....many bath tubs /shower trays are fibreglass too.....just don’t leave it on long and wash off with plenty of water .........always try a small area not see first.

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FSR    Fiberglas Stain Remover. Sold at marine specialty stores( West etc) it is a gel you put on, let sit and then wash off. It will remove the coffee colored stain at the waterline. Y-10 is a similar product (both are some sort of acid based) but I had better results with FSR. I have been told that Naval Jelly also works.
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1) on/off will take it off. - Is this easy off oven cleaner?
2) muriatic acid based - Is there a specific product this acid is in?
3) the works tub and shower cleaner - The blister comment concerns me! Also will it de-yellow a 25 year old hull.


I've always used straight muriatic acid. Never harms the gel, just have to be really aware using it in well ventalated areas. Can be purchased at any hardware store..
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Tom, believe easy off oven cleaner will remove paint from gel, would be careful about using that.


1) Marykate on/off - $15qt
2) muriatic acid - $8gal
3) the works tub and shower cleaner - $1qt
4) Davis FSR $13 16oz

Is Marykate or Davis worth the extra $$??
Does anyone know for sure if the works or muriatic are safe on the gel?
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Does anyone know for sure if the works or muriatic are safe on the gel?


Been used many times, as said above.
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2) muriatic acid - $8gal
Does anyone know for sure if the works or muriatic are safe on the gel?


CQ, the 97' Cobalt we have up in Green Lake has had it's hull splashed with it ever since it was new. Never any issues. Cleans perfectly. Just wax after and done !!!

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Hey guys, just curious, what is the procedure with the muratic acid? How do you apply, do you let it sit for a while, scrub? I would like to try this this winter and would like to know the correct steps. Thanks

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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Tom, believe easy off oven cleaner will remove paint from gel, would be careful about using that.


1) Marykate on/off - $15qt
2) muriatic acid - $8gal
3) the works tub and shower cleaner - $1qt
4) Davis FSR $13 16oz

Is Marykate or Davis worth the extra $$??
Does anyone know for sure if the works or muriatic are safe on the gel?


add starbrite hull cleaner to the list..about the same cost as the on/off. i like to put it in a spray bottle...spray it on, let it sit, hose it off. usually takes me multiple applications to get all the stains off, but no scrubbing.
As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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Originally posted by levinmark levinmark wrote:

Hey guys, just curious, what is the procedure with the muratic acid? How do you apply, do you let it sit for a while, scrub? I would like to try this this winter and would like to know the correct steps. Thanks

Mark


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Probably not a good idea to use the acid unless you have a lot of water to neutralize it. I spray it on, brush it for a few seconds and rinse it off.. You can't use it indoors, as the fumes will burn your nose and throat.. Outside in the driveway, no problem.. I've also poured it straight from the bottle onto a rag, then placed it over a long RV type washing broom and scrubed the hull that way. Use rubber gloves and just make sure you rinse everything that is comes into contact with.. Work from bottom to top to make sure this stuff doesn't drip on you..

Sounds bad, I know, but nothing in my opinion will clean/strip a hull faster and more effective. Just have to use it wisely and it does a great job... Wax after it dries and you're ready to go..

No, it won't get rid of a chalked up, oxidized surface, but lake scum, stains, etc. it does wonders on...

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Moj', thanks for the info. I guess if I'm going to try it, I'll wait till spring when it warms up to pull the boat out in the drive and the hose going. Right now I got the boat jammed in the back of the garage with platform off, trailer tongue in up position so we have room for both vehicles. Just got her tucked away and dont want to mess with it for a while. Its a 26x26 garage, we can park her escape on one side and I can park my truck on the other with about 5" of clearance for the door

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For using M acid we usually use a paint roller and cheap plastic paint roller tray. Use an extension handle or broom stick. You can roll sideways from the chines down over the strakes to the bilge line pretty easy. let sit and hose off.
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Another good tip, thanks guys. I'll give it a whirl when things warm back up.
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