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lakerat
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Posted: September-27-2007 at 7:34pm |
seems to me that not alot of peeps know about the cc motor that i have in my boat . it is time to take out that motor and give it the once over .be 4 i do this i would like some info on this matter. a place that i could get a book like the ones that u get 4 ur car or truck would help. stayn cool n texas.thanx 4 all yalls help.
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tullfooter
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75 Tique
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If we knew which bacerd movin motor you had, it is highly likely that someone on this site would know quite a bit about it. Since you havent asked before, I guess you're basing that on the fact that you havent seen much written about your particular motor here before. Ask away and if that doesnt work, try these guys
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TRBenj
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Come on Larry, you act like youve never heard of a bacerd movin motor before. Poor form. Just help the guy out already! |
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8122pbrainard
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Sorry Tim but I have to go with Larry and Steve on this one. It may be a age thing but I had to read the post very carefully and still don't know what a bacerd movin motor is!
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87BFN owner
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Me either, he must mean a RR motor.
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bkhallpass
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Backward Moving - I would also assume he means RR. BKH
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lakerat
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new here .bacerd movin, means counter clockwise rotating motor . what internal parts r differnt . my boat is 1983 correct craft ski natique. hard to start and bogs down when moved into gear or when givin it throtle with the n-button pulled . i have a holly 2 carb on it now but want to put a demon on over the winter. the guy i bought the boat from just did what he needed to do to get back on the water. but for 1000.00 bucs i caint complain. just want it to crank with out all the rrrrrrrrrthen start.he did put in the electronic ing. . my timing is set .
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lakerat
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my dumbass .sorry i have a 351m i think it is not the stock motor this i know.
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Munday
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I've never seen marine exhaust for an M ford motor not saying it isn't but I'd bet its a 351W,and if it is an M I also bet the motor cover isn't stock.
Bacerd parts include starter,rear oil seal,distr. gear,cam shaft munday |
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75 Tique
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just to clarify my post. I knew what he meant. I was just commenting that we didnt know which RR engine he had. I don't know a ton about it but I am guessing more than just the older 351s were bacerd, so I was asking which engine he had so the folks knowledgable about such things could help. Also, the marineengine site has a bunch of engine manuals.
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boat dr
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he got one them bakard motors
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1973Skier
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My 302 is a bacerd mover too, discovered that after putting a non-bacerd moving starter on it some years ago and sucking water from the lake into the combustion chambers. Water don't burn! Is the "different" parts list for my 302 the same as the 351: rear seal, starter, cam, distributer gear?
Lakerat; the initial post was hilarious, my concern is that I understood it all! |
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boat dr
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Depends what type rear seal you have,If you have a two piece rear main it is the same, the crankshaft has knurling cut to move the oil away from the seal.
Camshaft drive gear reversed Starter spins backwards Distr. drive gear R/Rotation Oil pump and distr. spin normal direction Special crank shaft w/ knurlings Pistons installed backwards |
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p/allen
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I was pretty certain Doc new what he was talking about . But Doc spells it differently . Must be from the other side of the river.
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Barracuda
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wheww- I haven't laughed that hard in a while!
I once had a deisel motor movin bacerd, till one of my peeps figured it out. You've come to the right place- Good luck with the engine rebuild. |
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75 Tique
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Just curious...If I recall correctly my 89 351 was left rotation and I believe the newer boats are all left rotation, aren't they? My 76 tique is RR. When did the various motors go from right to left?
Another motor question. A while back Tim talked about ford getting out of the marine engine business. I thought ford (or chevy or whoever) built their normal engines and then PCM, OMC Indmar (or whoever) marinized them. Did the engine makers do all the internal different stuff (like the things Boat doc listed above) at the factory, and the marinizers just did stuff like the wet exhaust... Tim, were you pickin' on me for bein' a wise guy? If so, you misinterpreted. As I said above, I know what he was getting at and was trying to offer productive info. (Just making sure you realized that) |
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my head hurts from trying to read these posts & translate them into actual readable english...hahaa
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Dayum - y'all gotta use your spill chick. That is da bomb. I love my spill chick - it is the only way I look edumacated in front of all y'all. 'totherwise I'd be feelin all bacerd win I post.
LEARN TO SPELL, SHIZZLEHEAD...not everything is a txt msg or an online chat. I don't mean to flame - but come on - public education is free. Show up long enough and you graduate - pay attention 50% of the time and you learn more than your peers...by accident. |
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8122pbrainard
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I'm glad you guys figured it out. My mind was set on something involving a child of a unmarried couple!!
Robert, I must say that I was taken back on your approach by using your text messaging style. I wouldn't have expected it from someone your age and you must understand you are dealing with a group that I don't feel are used to it ether. You should have read more of our posts and figured that out first. I also was surprised that someone who is a marina employee had a hard time finding a manual. I agree with Mike (69 Mustang) that you should change you style here but please, I do not want to offend you especially you being a newbie. You will find this group very willing to help with any problem. Welcome and we will get your reverse rotation engine running. Larry, Traditionally the marinizers of the engine will only do the marine specific items like manifolds, water pumps and carbs. The internals are supplied by the engine manufacturers. This is one of the reasons for the LH (standard) movement because building the RH is a "inconvenience" for the engine guys. |
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TRBenj
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Larry, I just figured that you knew something I didnt. Im still trying to figure out what a bacerd movin motor is. CC/PCM went from reverse rotation motors to standard rotation with the introduction of the 1.23 trans. The 1.23 reverses the direction of rotation, allowing a standard rotation motor to turn a RH prop- so it made everyone happy. I assume the LH motors were cheaper or easier to come by, and CC still got the benefit of the RH prop that offsets the weight of the driver. Lots of ski boat manufacturers use LH motors, 1:1 trannies and LH props, but your old Supra wouldnt have been one of them. It had the 1.23, so it spun a RH just like a CC. Im pretty sure that the marinization companies (PCM, Indmar, etc) get the long blocks from the auto manufacturer and assemble all the marine specific pieces (fuel pump(s), carb/EFI system, exhaust manifolds, alt, starter, dist, etc) onto them. With the exceptions of the EFI system and exh manifolds, the other marine parts are built by other vendors (Prestolite, Holley, Motorola, etc). I couldnt tell you how marine-specific the long blocks are that come from Chevy/Ford with regard to their internal parts. Id be interested to hear everyone elses take on it. PCM was one of the few companies still using Ford motors once Indmar/MC went to Chevy in '94. They stuck with them until they ran out of 351w blocks in '02. Whether it was lack of support on the marinized parts or block, or if PCM just deemed the new OHC Fords as a poor choice for a marine motor, I have no idea. PCM's been all Chevy since '03, though. |
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Google results for "bacerd movin"
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81nautique
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Now I just have to name my next dog Bacerd. |
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tullfooter
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Again,
What? Lefty |
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backfoot100
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Thanks Tull. I thought that I was the only one who couldn't figure out or understand a third graders equivalent spelling and pronunciation. I think lakerat has been sniffin' too much rat sh*t and it's gone right to his brain if he had one to start with.
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lakerat
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wow thankyou all for the info . for the most part .i will look up those sites . as for the way i spelled what i said just breaking the ice . now i know who will read my book and who will just look at the cover. so let me be the one to say i did not meen to offend any one. sounds to me like i did a few of you . as for the rest hope that youall live life to the fullest.
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Welcome aboard Rat! I like your sense of humor, though I'm not sure I'd have been able to spell 'bacerds' w/o your help?!!? LOL
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Rat, you must have mistaken us with some Your Friends, if you have any.
Our grammer may not be up to your literary standards, but we have done well so far.With your help we can all seek a new found low in communication. We are all eager to help,and open to newbies.But also very protective of our fellowship, you are welcome to be a PART of,but then you can be APART FROM TOO... |
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