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JSA1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: October-22-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Can anyone give me a possible year this boat may have been built? Type of engine? Any other items about this model? I have only seen pics of it so far and not sure if this one is worth pursuing. I'm new to the boating thing and don't want to take on a project that may be more than I bargained for! Since I started doing a little research on this craft and found this site I can definitely see how these Ski Nautique's can grow on you! Thanks in advance for any info!
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74Wind ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-02-2011 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 2101 |
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There are others that can provide model year info, but for starters, the large hull-side logos are incorrect. It is not a Ski Nautique, as you can see the dashboard plaque and the plate say Martinique.
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1974 Southwind 18
1975 Century Mark II |
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bhectus ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-04-2010 Location: Gator Country! Status: Offline Points: 1809 |
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Looks like '72-73 Martinique to me. Check out the brochure section here on the site.
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
'87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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Spinning a Chrysler 318 and it already has a ski pylon! Definitely a Martinique like said above. Very cool boats.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Online Points: 21138 |
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Me too. The pylon is newer (76+) though. |
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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Looking closer I see that it has an observer style seat with a drivers bucket. Ever seen that before Tim? Most of the early MQs I have seen are bench seat with forward facing back.
Also missing the correct thermostat housing? |
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bkhallpass ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4723 |
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You said you don't want a project. That boats a project. I don't know your budget, but I've seen many Correct Craft boats in better shape than that one for 4K to 7K.
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Livin' the Dream
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6149 |
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Brian, he said more than he bargained for ;). Gotta figure out what his bargaining budged is..
But like Brian said you can pick up very nice 2001 hull boats (Ski Nautique from 1982-1989) for the 5-7k range these days. Do a forum search on what to buy for or buying tips and boat buyer check list. This stuff has been covered time and time again and there is a massive wealth of information on this topic saved within this web forum. I would bet that this is the best resource in the world for tips on buying a used inboard ski boat (especially vintage). |
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JSA1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: October-22-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Thanks everyone for the info! No wonder I couldn't find a Ski Nautique that looked like it. I guess the previous owners(s)wanted it to "look" like something it isn't by putting incorrect logos on it and changing other items.?.?. I can get the boat for free and thought it might make a fun project. I will definitely have to spend a lot of time on this site to get me through this project if I decide to take it on!
Phatsat67, you mentioned it looks to have a Chrysler 318. I haven't been able to find that motor listed as being used? Do you think the original was changed out? Sorry for the silly questions but I am a real newbie to this! ![]() |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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More than likely original,Chryslers were very popular back in the day,
most likely came with good credit terms for Correct Craft ![]() All they really did was to put Ski Nautique on the sides,not the first time that has been done--- ![]() |
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Smithfamily ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-26-2007 Location: Orlando, Fl Status: Offline Points: 1602 |
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Freeeee?!!? Grab it and get to work!!
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Js
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65 'cuda ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-12-2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Status: Offline Points: 1091 |
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It's a '72 or earlier, if it was manufactured after nov 1, 1972 it would have a Hull Identification Number "CTC..." number on the transom, not a MQ serial number on the plate. Looks to be a '72.
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JSA1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: October-22-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Thanks 65! So your saying that since the plate is marked "MQ" there probably is not a number on the transom then? I had my son look for a marking on the transom but he said he didn't see anything. I will get to see the boat next week. I've been doing a lot of reading on this site and saw some info on how to check the stringers for rot. I'll post my findings and see what all of you think.
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J. Angel
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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See what we think??? You said it's Free. Just haul it home put a few bucks into it to get it running and drive it like you stole it because you did ![]() |
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JSA1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: October-22-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Hard to beat FREE
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J. Angel
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JSA1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: October-22-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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I got to see the boat and was really pumped to get it home...then I got the bad news. A family member of the person who owns the boat said they still wanted it.
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Smithfamily ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-26-2007 Location: Orlando, Fl Status: Offline Points: 1602 |
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I hate when that happens.... You ought to get your contact info to that person, because, likely, nothing will be done to it once they get it and see the work it needs, and the money it will take. |
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JSA1967 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: October-22-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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I will for sure because I don't know if they realize a raccoon or squirrel was living in it and has been tearing out the upholstery!
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J. Angel
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rilee29 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July-19-2016 Location: Provo, Utah Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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So this exact boat is now in my possession. I bought it from the owner of a boat sales near Herriman, Utah. I did get it cheap and was purchased in Nov 2015. The engine coding on the block says it's an LM motor which if I am not mistaken is a reverse rotation engine? Wires on the motor were in the 18436572 firing order and when I opened up the timing cover and valve covers, I don't think this motor has ever been ran. No bluing or wear marks of any kind. I have tried both firing orders, changing timing, but have not been able to get t to fire. If anyone can help, where do I start in finding out which way this should spin regardless of numbers or starter direction? This seems to have been monkeyed with a lot and I would love to not have to pull it down to the cam to figure this out. I just got all the correct hoses, stat housing etc on it. HELP?
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Rick
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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Rick,
Congratulations on the purchase of a classic CC. Take a look in the reference section under manuals. There's a Chrysler manual that will tell you what you need. Have you checked for spark and fuel? Considering how long it's not been run, I suggest cleaning up the point set contacts. There may be surface corrosion on them preventing the grounding of the coil. |
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rilee29 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July-19-2016 Location: Provo, Utah Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Yes, on the checks. New points and condenser, new carburetor. I'll check out the manual. I have a degree in automotive technology but haven't messed with this older stuff for decades and have never had to deal with boats, reverse rotation etc. Here we go!
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Rick
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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[QUOTE=rilee29] . I'll check out the manual. I have a degree in automotive technology [QUOTE]
You can't plug any diagnostic tools in to these older engines! ![]() ![]() |
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backfoot100 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: January-03-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1897 |
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If you're going clockwise around the dizzy from #1 that firing order is for a Chevy.
I have no idea what a RR rotation Mopar firing order is or which way the dizzy turns in that scenario but I would be really surprised if it's the same as a bowtie. |
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When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.
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rilee29 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July-19-2016 Location: Provo, Utah Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Near as I can tell, the distributor always turns clockwise. I was surprised at the firing order too, but it's correct according to the manuals I've seen. It's reversed for the reverse rotation engine and same for standard rotation. Now I have to figure out if this motor has been rebuilt incorrectly or if I need a different starter.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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Rick, Looking at the front of the engine, a RR will turn counterclockwise. |
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rilee29 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July-19-2016 Location: Provo, Utah Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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So the starter spins the motor ccw.looking at it from the front. I have a picture of the block casting. I'll try and post it. Not sure of all the number but it definitely ends in 318-2.
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10754 |
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It's time for your really big surprise now Eddie. ![]() Small block Mopar firing order and cylinder numbering scheme is the same as a Chevy. The distributor turns clockwise for both normal and reverse rotation, the same as a Chevy too For rilee29, with the distributor cap off look at your rotor and see which way it's spinning when you're cranking the engine over. If the rotor is going clockwise you've at least got the right starter. If it's going counterclockwise.......it ain't gonna start no matter what order you use. It would mean you have the wrong rotation starter in there. Edit Chrysler's LM designation is for a marine engine Hope this helps you some KenO |
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rilee29 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July-19-2016 Location: Provo, Utah Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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So distributor is turning clockwise. That makes the starter right. Motor is spinning ccw at front. Clockwise at the flywheel. That makes this a rr engine so the casting marks are correct. I am starting my firing order with #1 on the cap in the middle pointing at the carb. Clockwise, 12756348. Timing is 2.5 degree btdc. (A GUESS) Gap on points at .018. New points, cap, rotor, and plugs AND WIRES. Also a new carb. Checked for spark and good. Tried ether and gas and I still have nothing. ...anyone see something I'm not?
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Rick
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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Rick,
There's not much left that would prevent that engine from running except compression!! |
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rilee29 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July-19-2016 Location: Provo, Utah Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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150 straight across within 1 psi. Maybe I need a heavier duty battery? I have to retard timing a bit to get it to even turn over...scratching my head for sure!
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Rick
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