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MrMcD
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I have an opportunity to grab a 1996 Prostar 190 with 400 hours on the boat, 100 hours on a new engine for $7,500. Boat is clean and well cared for. The guy just wants to unload it.
I do not want to own this boat as we are happy with our Nautique. It would be for a quick flip. He lives in an area that is hard to get to so he just wants it gone. It has the LT-1 GM 350 engine. It seems these are holding value at least at $10K. I saw one on Ski it again for $14 that is not as clean and had nearly 800 hours and there is a similar one listed in Sacramento and they are asking $10K. Am I all wet? I thought I would ask before jumping in. Thanks Mark |
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TRBenj
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Closed bow values can vary a bit by area but 10k is about right for around here, especially with the LT1. Make sure the “new engine” is running proper.
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The kool-aid drinkers on ball of spray think that’s the greatest boat ever built until the tsc1 came around. They will be your audience.
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Suspect you’re confusing the 91-94 hull that is very much loved. The 95-97 is less so for some reason- but I find it a better overall boat. Nice barefoot table and wake to boot- and the hull rides proud so they tend to be fairly speedy.
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Orlando76
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I know the 97 had a major issue for some reason on the water tests for approval. Idk the hull designs well but those quacks love their 80’s and 90’s ProStars and anything else is chicken feed.
Frankly picking up a boat worth $10k or so for $7500 isn’t enough profit for myself to warrant dealing with potential buyers. Let’s say you try for $12k but after 3 months settle on $10k, all for $2500 and a phone log of hagglers? if you have the gift to gab go for it. I’m fortunate to know I can make an extra $2500 in less time and don’t have to deal with people. |
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Orlando hit the nail on its head
Maybe invest if it was a 69 camaro clean for half price |
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TRBenj
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Nope, now you’re confusing the 98-00 hull. That was the “Disastercraft” that chine locked during AWSA testing, for which MC came out with the “positive tracking system” chine inserts/extra tracking fin/winged rudder as a fix.
95-97 had no such issues and is a good skiing boat. |
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All right fine. I just think they’re all *************** until 2014 and ~$2500 profit in my mind isn’t worth the headache.
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DVskier
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Close but the 1998 Pro Star failed the AWSA towboat test. After a modification to the rudder and adding material to the aft end of the boat it passed the test. Nonetheless the 1996 Pro Star has a decent slalom wake. As Tim said it isn’t as prized as the 93-94 PS. Still a great deal for a slalom skier on a budget. I’d want to know more about why the engine was replaced and why the total hours are so low. Put a PP Stargazer in it for $1,000 and you’ve got a good training boat.
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Actually the 2014 Mastercraft is know to be sluggish out of the hole. They fixed it in 2015 with a reduction transmission that cured the problem. I love skiing behind a 2015- current Mastercraft. Low, soft wakes and a great pull. Doesn’t track nearly as well as a Nautique in the course and the resale doesn’t hold up as well as Nautique but still a good boat.
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Only reason the 14 is deemed sluggish is because slalom skiers these days are above skiing public lakes with room. Instead they want to ski in ditches less than 1300’ in length and want to hit 36mph way before the 55’s so they can have time to fix their hair. I like the 14 bc the price today is more appealing over a 14 SN, better interior features IMO and if you can stomach the looks of the latest SN, well my hats off to you.
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I’m not a fan of the the new SN design, the Bryant built 200 looks much better.
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That was quick. It was a scam, '97 Prostar for $2500.
Mark, If the boat checks out I would go for it. Although, if you ski behind it you will probably end up keeping it. Having two boats isn't a bad thing. |
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$10k sounds about right, but you could easily dump a few weeks and a few hundred bucks into making it pretty. I'm also not sure how quickly boats are selling right now - it's still a weird market. A friend has two cruisers for sale and the $6900 boat has gotten a ton of action while the nicer $15,900 boat has been slow to sell.
If you want something to tinker with and don't mind sitting on it if it's slow to sell, go for it. If you're looking for a really quick and easy buck, see if you can get a dealer to write you a check for it above the $7500 mark. |
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MrMcD
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In CA our season is just taking off so if it is going to sell now has the highest value.
I believe the engine was replaced due to a Freeze, yeah it does get cold in parts of CA. My buddy had called me and let me know about this boat. I gave him details including great ski wake, powerful engine but rides harsh enough to rattle your teeth on rough water. All I think are accurate. I also shared what I found out there for sale that was similar. He has decided to go look at it with his wife. He thinks he will now buy it. That is fine. I was just looking at it for a quick flip. I like my boat. Thanks for all the feedback. AND as far as time vs money made, I am now retired so I have more time than income now. Allows for playing with projects. |
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They don’t ride nearly as rough as the 80’s models. Those would shake your teeth out for sure.
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Ok that’s enough OFF CC TOPIC talk here.
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TRBenj
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The rough water ride will be pretty close to the NWZ. The teeth rattling ended with the previous hull.
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MrMcD
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Good information to know guys and I appreciate you guys offering your opinions.
I was pretty sure I could get accurate information even on a non Nautique from ski guys on this forum. Now I will probably get to help my buddy bring this boat up to snuff and that is fine he is a very good old friend. |
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Since we are talking MC . Just curious how the mid 80's - 90 hulls are wake wise ?
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Feels like I am hanging 10 but in reality - probably hanging 6.
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Miles above a SN. If you have a SN of the era, burn the dog to the ground.
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The wake sucks behind them I can't get any pop off them . friend has a MINT one. its not easy to load either.
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For Bruce
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So you're a Moderator, too? Who would have thought? I can hardly wait till someone asks about the value of '80's Malibu Skiers. |
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MC Wanted threads are ok |
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DVskier
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Guys at my old ski club called (2001 model) Nautiques Naw Tanks. They were 93 Pro Star purists. I had a 97 SN that they all wanted a pull from.
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The 2001’s were ahead of their time.
They were great wakeboard boats just waiting for the sport to be invented. |
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