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My limited success with cheeking out has been to lean back and ride on your elbow. Also, don't wait. Cheek out as soon as you can.

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Originally posted by Keith Keith wrote:

My limited success with cheeking out has been to lean back and ride on your elbow. Also, don't wait. Cheek out as soon as you can.

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Leaning back can cause you to bounce which = out of control, FYI.

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You may just want to start just off the table like where Hollywood is (white suit), cheeking out is really not totally necessary.

To cheek see how much I am leaning in this shot, once you get over the wake you need to be ready to stand quickly or you may just get sucked back in.







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Originally posted by behindpropeller behindpropeller wrote:


Leaning back can cause you to bounce which = out of control, FYI.

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No doubt Tim. I meant just when cheeking. I need to lean back more than when trying to plant and ride my elbow outside the wake.

I hear the bouncing issue however. I have the this problem once I'm outside the wake and am getting ready to plant.
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Originally posted by Keith Keith wrote:

Originally posted by behindpropeller behindpropeller wrote:


Leaning back can cause you to bounce which = out of control, FYI.

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No doubt Tim. I meant just when cheeking. I need to lean back more than when trying to plant and ride my elbow outside the wake.

I hear the bouncing issue however. I have the this problem once I'm outside the wake and am getting ready to plant.


The problem with telling people to lean back is that they tend to stay leaned back once it is time to plant. Once they do that they drop their feet off of the rope and crash while trying to plant.

When I teach, the need to get to a sitting glide position asap, and I take care of getting them out of the wake for the first few times, having a shorter line helps too. Going from the proper butt glide position to a plant is a lot easier.

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Here are a few shots of me long lining last Friday.








Here are a couple of my borther.





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Hmm, so you just stand up in the wake? No cheeking for you? I guess with a proper line length the water's fine for footing back there.
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You guys got some great looking form there, nice work!
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It helps to have a BFN
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Hey James, you guys have come along way in a little over a month, keep it up and keep watching that video.
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Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:

It helps to have a BFN


Maybe, maybe not. In that last photo, it looks like a very turbulent table. Partially explained if thats a 75 foot rope. Some boats offer a particulary smooth area between the propwash and the wake, especially with a 100 foot rope, that is an exellent spot to ride.

Edit: upon a second look, that could also be attributed to the fact that the boat is in a turn.
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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:

It helps to have a BFN

Maybe, maybe not. In that last photo, it looks like a very turbulent table. Partially explained if thats a 75 foot rope. Some boats offer a particulary smooth area between the propwash and the wake, especially with a 100 foot rope, that is an exellent spot to ride.

Edit: upon a second look, that could also be attributed to the fact that the boat is in a turn.

Trust me, that table is sweet. No need to cheek on that boat.
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See that spot on the last pic where it says 9-07-2007. That is the sweet spot. Try it.

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You and Jake are looking great. Keep it up. We hit White Lake yesterday. First time in the boat since the surgery. Water sucked, but not behind the boat. Taught a kid how to two ski on the boom, and within an hour had him footing on the boom.
I'm the DD of the boat, that also sucks.

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Nicely done guys. In a little over a month, that's great progress.

When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



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Looking good fellas.
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Wow, very nice improvement since GL. You guys must have a new found appreciation for the Barefoot Nautique. Keep up the great work.

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Thanks for all the props guys, I can honestly say i don't think we would be this far along had it not been for the trip to GL.

Yes we are running a 100 foot tac line plus handle. Speed was right about 36-38MPh according to the speedo. All Pics of us standing the boat was turning to keep us in the best water possible as it was kinda chopy that day. Saturday the water was much better but my wonderful wife that takes the pics was not with us.
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My wife never looks at this site, she thinks I am on it to much as it is. But she is very happy that I found CCF, because if not for you guys she would not of had a three day sunmmer vacation with me at GL. I would have just stayed home and worked some more. Hows the arm?
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Sorry I didn't reply to this post. The arm is good. I'm on my third and last cast. They keep opening up the angle of my elbow with each new cast. This cast comes off in three weeks, and then it's 2+ months of therapy. I'm going to look like some kind of sissy, doing those curls with a 3LB dumbell. The left arm is doing great, 12oz curls have kept it strong.
Leaving tonight for the barefoot race in Big Rapids. Tested the drivability of the arm last night with some barefoot pulls on White Lake. No problem. The left arm worked well, doing it's job at the White Lake Inn . I hope to have some pics or vids from the race. I (or Brendan most likely) will post.
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Good luck to you and your team this week end. I though about trying to make it up there, but work wont let me. There are alot of guys off work this week end due to the youth deer hun this week end. We have several projects scheduled to be done this week end. Sounds like 18 hour days at work both days. I going to try to get out and foot saturday right after work then sunday before I go back to work.
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Well, I can now cheek out and I've been up a couple of times on Friday. I pulled my tricep on one nasty header and now have a nice swollen lump on the back of my left arm, but that's going down. Today I woke up with a nice bruise developing on the inside of the same arm. The good thing is it doesn't effect slalom skiing, or footing for that matter until I fall like that again. But boy what a rush.
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MM- A couple hard falls on the long line sure does teach you respect for the sport. I took a pretty nasty one yesterday practicing one foots on shoe skis. Even at 32 mph it rang my bell pretty good.

As for cheeking out- If you don't get out on your first try, just stand up between the prop wash and the wake- either side and you'll be fine. Tell your driver ahead of time so you're not assing around for half of your run trying to give him the thumb up signal

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Barracuda,

How long of a line are you running off of. That was some good footin. The water was perfect.

Sorry no new pics yet, birthday's, work, and my sister announced she was getting married. So hopefully this week end we will hit the lake.
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Here's some more video from early Friday morning - It starts with Brad (Barracuda) and Tim (TRBenj) running tandem long-line (this should have been three long-line but I just couldn't stand long-line that morning). At the end of the video is my first one-foot short-line.

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That was a 100' BI line. I know, it's like a mile long, but the water is real nice at that point behind the 86 SN.
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Brad, 100' was wondering from the video it looked shorter. The two man run looked like you guys were having a good time.

Question, you guys make crossing over the wake look so easy once your up. Don't kill me to bad, but any pointers for this.
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Brad, 100' was wondering from the video it looked shorter. The two man run looked like you guys were having a good time.

The lines were shorter on the double run- probably 75-80'.
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Yep- In the first video, that was a 100' line. For the doubles run, we used shorter lines because they were exactly the same length.
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