another ? about my 69 ski

In response to an earlier reply, the distributor IS rotational selective. The first thing you must do is determine the rotation of the prop and engine. After that you need to pull the dist. cap and try to rotate the rotor in each direction, the direction in which the rotor moves easily as opposed to no movement, is the rotational direction. The earlier engines all had mechanical advance mechanisms which advance in the direction of rotation. If you turn over the engine and watch the rotor and it does NOT turn the same direction as it advances then there is a possibility that the incorrect distributor has been installed. It must turn in the direction of advance. If the engine turns in the direction it should, as determined by the prop, probably RH, and the distributor does not then an incorrect distributor is installed. If the engine does NOT turn the correct direction, the starter is wrong.....either of the two above problems will cause the symptoms and results you mentioned. If both are correct, your problem is elsewhere. Hope this all helps.

Chopper wrote: I'm with 79 on this one. I't can't have fired (or even kicked) if the starter is turning the engine the wrong way.

You might not think so, but you'd be wrong. Every few rotations it would kick like it was trying to start. Trust me, I fought this issue for an entire afternoon! The previous owner had installed a LH starter on the RH 302 in my Tique.

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TRBenj wrote: You might not think so, but you'd be wrong. Every few rotations it would kick like it was trying to start. Trust me, I fought this issue for an entire afternoon! The previous owner had installed a LH starter on the RH 302 in my Tique.

I have to agree with Tim on this. It is possible to have the timing screwey enough to have the fuel and compression in the right situation for a spark to make it kick, even spinning the wrong way.
I also agree with Chris on verifying.
But wouldn't the prop rotation be the key?

Steve

Tim, I'm beginning to think the boat doesn't have a prop on it - have I missed you checking its rotation??

tbarker80 wrote: so, let me make sure i have the firing order correct for this "reverse rotation" 318. Right now it is wired, 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. I assume this is correct since i haven't changed them since I got the boat, and it was running a couple years ago.

Phat has the same #'s, but going the other way.

Steve

ok. the rotor is definitely spinning counter clockwise. that has to be it!!! Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.

OK, I think I have this all figured out now. LH motor means LH starter and RH motor means RH starter. Unless you have an old SBC like mine, then that all goes out the window. Since my starter is a "hollywood" set up, I have a RH motor and a LH starter. Its never simple.

Yes it is the correct info for a 318 marine chrysler.

Well I guess the point was regardless of engine rotation the dist on a 351W spins the same direction for both std and rev rotation motors.

tbarker80 wrote: hey guys. i've been having a lot of trouble getting this bad boy fired up and i'm wondering if i have the right starter on it. it's a 318 engine, but i'm not sure if it's a reverse rotation or not. the starter i have on it now is a CCW starter, but since it's mounted to the back of the flywheel, that means that the motor would be turning clockwise. When i turn the motor over, fuel just spits out the top of the carb like nobodies business which makes me believe that the motor is turning the wrong way. funny thing is though that i got the motor to hit for about 3 full revs. ok this is starting to make no sense to anyone i'm sure. i guess the main question i have is, how do i know which way my motor turns, and should i have a normal starter or a CCW starter. any help will be greatly appreciated. here's the link to my original post with some pictures. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9839&PN=3

don't see anything that state orginal motor here.

JoeinNY wrote: Clearly he stated its the original motor, then he stated it turns counterclockwise as viewed from the rear. He also stated the orignal starter was lost and replaced from a local boat shop. Its a no brainer he has the wrong starter the right info was provided as well as a link to pick one up cheap, thats customer service right there. Sometimes it amazes me when someone comes in and doesn't have time to read the orignal info but then feels the need to take the time to bust balls.

it's clear your comprehension skills need polished, the only time he talks about orginal is about him losing the orginal starter.

SO if you if want to piece together BS to support your case go ahead.

tbarker80 wrote: hey guys. i've been having a lot of trouble getting this bad boy fired up and i'm wondering if i have the right starter on it. it's a 318 engine, but i'm not sure if it's a reverse rotation or not. the starter i have on it now is a CCW starter, but since it's mounted to the back of the flywheel, that means that the motor would be turning clockwise. When i turn the motor over, fuel just spits out the top of the carb like nobodies business which makes me believe that the motor is turning the wrong way. funny thing is though that i got the motor to hit for about 3 full revs. ok this is starting to make no sense to anyone i'm sure. i guess the main question i have is, how do i know which way my motor turns, and should i have a normal starter or a CCW starter. any help will be greatly appreciated. here's the link to my original post with some pictures. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9839&PN=3

79nautique wrote: don't see anything that state orginal motor here.

Yes, you are correct!

tbarker80 wrote: the engine is the original, but when i try to crank it with the starter i have now, it turns counter clockwise looking at it from the rear. also, when i try to crank it, although it's not in gear, the prop spins very slowly in the wrong direction. i'm guessing it has to be the wrong starter.

79nautique wrote: if this is true then that would turn the motor CW which would be correct for a reverse as view from the rear and mounted from the rear.

Exactly what he just said...

79nautique wrote: the only time he talks about orginal is about him losing the orginal starter.

WRONG. Who needs the comprehension?

Are we on page 3 yet???

Boat ran awesome on Saturday, one pump to start and didn't touch the throttle after.

tbarker80 wrote: the engine is the original

79nautique wrote: the owner never states it's the orginal motor in the boat

Yes, he sure does.

79nautique wrote: We saw where guessing got you with your cam, not to good a result at GL.

I have no idea what you are talking about!

Please go back to this thread, your expertise is needed.

Riley wrote: Why is the power valve that comes with the kit the wrong one?

79nautique wrote: determinds when the secondaries open and with the lower number's it can take them quit a long time to open up.

TRBenj wrote: Isnt the power valve on the primary side?

LaurelLakeSkier wrote: Yes Tim you are right. The secondaries are also opened by vacuum but the power valve isn't what opens them.

Why can't you just admit when you are wrong? I'm pulling a page out of your book, calling BS when I see it. It's becoming a full-time job around here. Ice is out it's time to ski so I won't bother with it much more.

I don't know s**t from Shinola when it comes to cams and carbs. But what I do know is that it's been a long winter and I think the cabin fever is coming out in some of the threads.

Wood, gotta love when she fires right up after one pump.

Steve