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skier49
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Posted: August-12-2008 at 1:06am |
What is the average number of hours expected out of a PMC 1.23 transmission before rebuilding? The transmission has never slipped but it does have a front seal leaking and the dampener plate has less than 10 hours on it. What would be a reasonable price for having one of these transmission rebuilt? Transmission would be shipped to the shop.
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The Dude
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Trannyboy Eric to the rescue!
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eric lavine
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heard of many with 1500 hours on the boat, contrary to what i say they are a pretty good trans, like a woman if you take care of her she will take care of you.
the problem with these tranny's are the parts are captive and you can only go to one place to get the parts, PCM average normal rebuild is 750.00 to 850.00 with no hard parts. if you do need hard parts i normally dont charge for them because i have a ton of used cores from PCM that failed during testing the boats or cores that i accumulated over the years |
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xke1962
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Eric,
I am considering purchasing a 83 SN and need the transmission rebuilt. How long is your turnaround and what is your shipping adress? |
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eric lavine
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how do you know the trans is bad? there are times when the damper hub snaps and the owner thinks the trans is bad...any symptoms from the PO?
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xke1962
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This is the 83 SN that freemanca bought in 2007 and had posted questions about a rebuild. He indicated that the prop wont stop spinning in neutral and that the unit is slipping?
You had posted that a new BW 1:1 can be purchased for $1250. Is that just for the unit or is that including removal and install? I would plan to pull the trans. myself and do the rebuilb myself or replace it with a new unit. How complex is a rebuilt job and what mistakes are common? Thanks for the support. What is your phone number in OH? I would like to call you for insight. Phil Dunkley |
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eric lavine
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750.00 No more no less, it will be updated for ski boat use, 877-369-6693
well, on rebuilding yourself is up to you, my final count last summer for transmissions that went to the local auto rebuilder or in the garage was 16, and if I listed the problems i found it would be mostly things that got overlooked and left out such as snap rings or worn bushings. for reference I charge 2hours out and 3 back in, as a guide for you, that is with alignment. another 1 hour labor for damper R and R which is a must replacemant part...the it looks good or the alignment was fine is a statement used often and translates too: the damper was junk so we will charge you again to R and R it but this time the labor charge will be for 4 hours, the alignment was fine means it wasnt checked and a true way to tell if it was is the mechanic will say i got it within .003. I can walk you through the R and R with the help of these other guy's, it really isnt a bad job once you dive in Eric |
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Naughty93
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Eric, you should be receiving a "patient" soon via UPS. Can't wait to get it back and get my boat back up. 1.23:1
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eric lavine
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GD, i forgot to mention the California charge lol
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Naughty93
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California charge? Whoaaaa, I sure hope it's the kind of "charge" that's sending our Prius Inbreeds into out of control oblivion ;)
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eric lavine
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its that hidden charge, for some reason you guy's pay 500k for a 2000 sq ft house, just trying to get in on some of that action...lol
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Naughty93
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Tell me about it, that's why I'm still a renter
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eric lavine
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in the Humbolt county triangle? I hear rent is real high there
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Naughty93
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That's Northern Ca., I'm about an hour West of the Sacramento Delta. As soon as I get that tranny back in that's where I'm headed. If you're ever out here, swing on by for a cold one UPS tracking says the patient is a couple days out from ya.
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eric lavine
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what would you be heading up there for? As Arnold would say, only in calyfornia.
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Naughty93
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That's the local boating spot for wakeboarding and overall boating activities. It's a canal system that channels out to the S.F. Bay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramento_%E2%80%93_San_Joaquin_River_Delta |
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Naughty93
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Any luck with the tranny?
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eric lavine
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yep, couple days, burnt pack, low on oil?
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Naughty93
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Yes Sir, was out in the middle of the lake with a full boat. After it blew out it's lifeblood I was only able to troll it in after a few slips.
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eric lavine
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good example of once you slip the clutches they glaze and lose co-efficiency of friction, in turn, they lose the ability to hold and will break free. at this point they cannot dis-appate heat quickly enough and will see instant face temperatures of up to 900 degrees and will warp the plates...then you will experience a dirty neutral because you lose the forward pack clearance..
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Luchog
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Eric, yesterday I went to a friends's job who had a 351w on his workbench attached to a PCM 1.23:1, when I moved the coupling back and forth I could hear feel some clicking in the short range movement. Shaft play or else?
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eric lavine
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normal gear lash
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Naughty93
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You know, after the first time I felt that initial slip I knew it was low on oil, I went to check it & already knew it the oil was either low or empty due to the pre-existing leak. I was negligent of checking before I went out, not knowing the leak had progressed as much as it did until that point. After refilling it to normal level, it was running smooth & to my disbelief even hauling a tuber okay. I changed the tranny cooler, re-sealed the rear, both the seal & new silicone just to see if I could patch it up. Started her up and still leaked, this time out of the front I think. Only 400 hours on it. So I guess everyone that chooses can use my experience as an f.y.i. Leaking? Little slip? Don't waste your time trying to put a band-aid on it as I did. Just send it on over to Mr. Lavine.
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eric lavine
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painted! and ready to roll
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Naughty93
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Any way I could have a tracking number?
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