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    Posted: February-07-2009 at 4:46pm
I have been watching these things literally fly up and down the lake for the last several weekends. My question is how fast can they go? They move across the ice faster than any boat or seadoo we see in the summer which is about 70 mph. However, these snowmobiles seem to move much much faster. One guy told us the newer "sleds" with go 110-130 mph. Was this guy for real?
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My 700 Yamaha Viper will run 120 plus MPH on good hard pack...    ( Stock ..about 140hp/500lbs)   We consistantly run the 60 to 80 mph area.
Not hard to get 155- 160 hp out of em.... but Ive left my last two sleds pretty much bone stock... Crack the throttle and breaking the track loose at 80mph is enough for me.

Just about as much fun as boating..
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I get 95 out of my 500 polaris . It deffinatly makes the deer come and go faster .
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Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

Crack the throttle and breaking the track loose at 80mph is enough for me.


Steve.
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Well most of the snow melted today in the Chicago area so I imagine it's gone down by you too. At least you were able to get out on the sled this year!


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Wow. That is crazy fast! It must be awfully cold at 100mph. I did 73 on my buddys Seadoo this summer and that was plenty fast for me.
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Pete, 192 picks in the track, in deeper snow, it'll still break loose. I like the picks for breaking and cornering.

Chris, The sleds have adjustable hand and thumb warmers.   That, with 500 to a thousand bucks in the right bibs, boots, coats, gloves, helmets, etc. its not that bad.   You have to watch it, but we've ridden in 20 below actual air temp with no problems.
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Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

You have to watch it, but we've ridden in 20 below actual air temp with no problems.


With all due respect...I can't imagine for the life of me why anyone would want to do that.

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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

You have to watch it, but we've ridden in 20 below actual air temp with no problems.


With all due respect...I can't imagine for the life of me why anyone would want to do that.

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John, sounds like your whimping out with old age!   

Actually, when we drive 8 to 10 hours north for a 4 or 5 days of riding, you cant alway choose the weather. The alternative is to stay in the motel room.....as for me, I'll take the ride!
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Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

You have to watch it, but we've ridden in 20 below actual air temp with no problems.


With all due respect...I can't imagine for the life of me why anyone would want to do that.

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John, sounds like your whimping out with old age!   



Old age with a warm climate attitude!!


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Now thats funny. "Old age with a warm climate attitude...holding a glass of sweet tea. Do I hear Jimmy Buffet playing in the back ground? Heck I am even worried about 72 deg. water at silver glen next weekend. That why I am worthy of the handle "Hasbeen"
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We went for a ride in Mich. one time . By the time we got back to the hotel it was - 30 air temp. We had no idea it was that cold or we would have gotten home sooner . The sleds run great when it is that cold out .
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When I lived up North, in a previous life, my snowmobile had a Hemi, or was that a Cobra Jet?! Anyway, the speedometer wrapped around three times so no telling how fast it would go. Actually "North" Carolina is almost too far north for me. I'm gradually coming down with jbearitis, and I hear when you get older, there is no cure.

We actually had a dusting of snow here last Weds and it's supposed to be 68-70 degrees here today.
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It's been cold up in the north this winter. We didn't get our annual January thaw and we've had a lot of mornings well below zero. Cabin fever is setting in. But, we are not as cold as up in "The County" where they say they have 6 months of winter and 6 months of poor sleddin.
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Thanks Reid, Pete and bj...you guys got my back.

'Course now that I think about it...we are all kinda in the same place...age-wise. Definatly I got a "warm climate attitude"...had to turn the furnance on this week when the temps went in the 50's.

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Steve and I (don't know about BJ - his B date isn't in his profile!) can get away with giving you a hard time about the age since we're all in the same boat 51, 52, 54 and ?. I don't know about Reid though. He's the kid in the group being born in 58!!!!


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It is 2/16/55 Meet me in Astor next weekend and lets have some cake!
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I bet Pete would come if he could! Are you really gonna put that beautiful boat in the water bj?

See Pete...we are all in the same boat..well Reid is kinda young for our group.

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   The new Yamaha four strokes (1000cc-150hp) will hit close to 130 in the right conditions.Most of the big 800 twins are done around 108-110mph. Maybe Phil(lfskizzer) will chime in on this.His dad just got a new Arctic Cat Z1 turbo 170HP.....I'm curious if he's rung that out yet. I'm more of a deep snow backcountry guy now, I got tired of meeting guys in corners at 80mph that can't stay on their side of the trail

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Well, we sure have come a long way. I started on one of these:



The worst was getting them slushed in on a lake. You needed several large men to get them out due to the weight.


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^^^^^^^^^ that's cool Pete! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You still got it? I see the carb throat is aimed strategically at the rider so you smelled like a gas can after riding it all day!

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Pete, the only one I've ever driven was an old yellow SkiDoo that was similar to that. I think the top speed was 35.
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Originally posted by 05 210 05 210 wrote:

^^^^^^^^^ that's cool Pete! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You still got it? I see the carb throat is aimed strategically at the rider so you smelled like a gas can after riding it all day!

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All the early sleds had the carb intakes pointing at the driver. When the racing sleds started to use jack shafts allowing the engine to move forward and lay down lowering the center of gravity it put the carbs up under the shroud. Then of course, it caught on with the regular trail type sleds. Yes, the carb intake in the drivers crotch was a problem. One of the hot upgrades was to remove the choke plate and shaft reducing it's restriction and then replace the intake grill with a aluminum venturi. With the solid aluminum venturi strategically located, it wasn't long before someone came out with one made out of rubber!!! The other problem is they did suck things like scarves up in them.

No, I don't have it anymore. Wish I did as there is quite a following of old sleds. They even race the old ones in there own classes.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Well, we sure have come a long way. I started on one of these:


Pete, once again, we are about the same vintage. We started out with one of these in the mid 60s (not ours... a google pic I found)



Don't remember the HP but as I recall, about 40 MPH was a big deal. A year or two later Ski-Doo came out with their TNT...
that was the hot machine of the day.

Talking about the air intake. Ours had a little plastic horn
that opened up toward your crotch. That broke so my dad replaced it with an aluminum one. You knew it when you collided with that one.

Our neighbors had an evinrude like yours. Had reverse, a pretty big deal, but you're right,
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Originally posted by reidp reidp wrote:

Actually "North" Carolina is almost too far north for me. I'm gradually coming down with jbearitis, and I hear when you get older, there is no cure.


You know Reid, I thought in some of the pictures I saw of you that were taken this summer something was changing...I just couldnt put my finger on it..... til you explained your condition.. "jbearitis"...

Now I understand...



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Wow...that picture is scary.

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I bet Pete would come if he could!



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Ha! I still have my old Rupp grass racer(Jbears kind of sport-hot and loud) up in the rafters above the shop. I haven't seen it in probably three years and haven't run it in over 15. The last time we ran the Rupp was across 200 yds of open water at Sauble Beach.
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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

A year or two later Ski-Doo came out with their TNT...
that was the hot machine of the day.


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The 65 Evenrude was my dads. I worked and saved and saved and bought my own sled which was the 399 TNT! Yup, the hottest thing going in the day! I of course wanted the 699 but glad I didn't get it. They were horizontally opposed and compression on both cylinders at the same time to cancell out vibration. I had a friend with one and even though he was big, he had a hard time pulling it over - no compression release!!


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