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Randy_in_Ohio
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Posted: April-01-2009 at 5:57pm |
Last night I sent an email to anyone I could find in the diaries that had a 97-2002 SPN. I got a few responses from folks who still had their boat in storage and were willing to take the measurement for me in the near future. But a big thanks goes out to Steve Jones who has his '98 Sport listed in the diaries and was able to confirm for me that the placement of the bow eye is the same on the '93-98 SPN and the '98-2002 SPN. Thank you to all who responded!
I will be contacting Owen today to get things moving on this trailer. |
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bkhallpass
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My crash pads have a pin and flip forward. No problem with the cover. I wouldn't have a trailer without the crash pads. I will be removing the roller and installing crash pad on my 82 trailer - - If I ever get around to putting the boat back together. BKH
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TRBenj
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Randy, the crash pads are one of the few nice features of the CC/Ramlin trailers. Theyre not the cleanest looking and theyre a pain to put the cover on, but you sure cant beat them when loading. If Boatmate is willing, they could make the crash pad stand floating- either attached via several bold holes or held down with ties like Ramlin does it.
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Owen replied quickly form his blackberry to my question about adding the crash pads instead of the bow roller. Here is what he said:
"It could, but we run into the problem of positioning the crash pads. Without the boat I don't know that I can get the pads located just right." |
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Hollywood
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If you have the trailer in too deep and are power loading hard up to the crash pads I can see how they might pull the rub rail down as the back end of the boat falls onto the bunks. Loosen the turnbuckle and squat the nose of the boat. Face away fromt the boat, rub rail just above your shoulders. You are strong enough to lift up enough of the boat for someone else to slide the cover in or out. Again, you must not load too tight against the pads.
I make sure to point out the damage on quinner's boat from that keel roller every so often. |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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If anyone out there has a 1998-2002 Sport Nautique, I would really appreciate it if you could measure from the bottom of the rub rail to the center of the bow eye, along the keel and let me know what you get.
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Randy_in_Ohio
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I sent Owen an email asking if it was possible to replace the bow roller stop with the crash pads if there is a problem with the roller location.
I was actually kind of looking forward to getting rid of the crash pads. They are a pain when you are trying to remove the cover after the boat slides forward on the trailer and I think they are what caused the damage to my rub rail in the front. |
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quinner
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The dealer talked me out of the crash pads and into the roller stop on my 206, Major mistake, never again!! Only use the trailer a handful of times each year, otherwise that roller stop would be history!! |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Rusty,
Send me an email. |
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Rusty2sb
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Want to sell your old trailer? :) |
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Hollywood
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Ditch the whole keel roller idea and go with crash pads, done deal! Looks like Boatmate does not have a similar design towards the front of the trailer though, modifications might be needed. It's a preference thing, I like the crash pads much more than that roller.
Rob Leinen's Trailmaster Needs no introduction - Performance Trailer |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Nice looking setup hunter. But I think those wheels may be a little to flashy for my '93...
Yes, Owen is great, real nice guy that seems to really care about the customer. They make a real nice looking trailer. I need someone with access to a 98-02 to measure the distance from the rub rail to the bow eye for me. Please help!!! |
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Nautiquehunter
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I had them build a custom trailer for my 08 210. It pulls perfectly and supports the boat
with extra bunks. I dealt with Owen he went over and above to get me my trailer. |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Update from Owen... Here is my email to him and his response:
Randy, I believe the span from the bottom of the rub rail at the bow point to the center of the bow eye will tell us what we need to know. This measurement would be taken along the keel. If those two measurements are different we would also need the horizontal span from the point of the bow to the hull at the center of the bow eye for both models. This tells me how far back the bow eye is located from the point of the bow. Ramlin' may not have the measurement required since they used the "crash pads" instead of a bow-roller type stop. Good luck. We'd love to build you a trailer. Owen E. Shelton BoatMate Trailer, Inc. 1713 Henry G Lane Street Maryville, TN 37801 (T) 865-273-1100 (F) 865-273-1101 www.boatmatetrailers.com -----Original Message----- From: rwise@neo.rr.com [rwise@neo.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:05 AM To: Owen Shelton Subject: Re: BoatMate trailer Owen, Thanks for getting back to me. from what I have read in the manuals and brochures, the length, beam, draft and weight are exactly the same on both the '93 and '99 Sport. I can not find anything about the bow eye location. I will see if I can find someone with access to a '99-02 Sport who could measure it. What would I need to measure? the distance from the eye to the top deck or the eye to the bottom of the keel? I will try to get both measurements. I may call Ram-lin trailers too and see if I can get any info out of them on the trailer design change from those years. I believe they made a lot of the original CC trailers. I really like the looks and quality of the Boatmate trailer and hope I will be able to use your trailer. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks, Randy |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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HW,
I don't think they have a keel v-pad on these trailers. I think the question is with the height of the bow roller. |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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here is the picture Owen sent me of what the basic trailer would look like.
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Hollywood
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They are probably concerned with the height of the roller or maybe even a keel v-pad.
Randy, 98-02 would work for your measurement needs. |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Yes, I read of trouble with the boat buddy. Not planning on going that route.
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nautique frk
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I would not suggest the Boat Buddy either we had many problems with them on the Supra boats at our factory as well, they can scratch the heck out if the gel coat when trying to get it to latch. I always just use the old style turnbuckle that has been on Correct Crafts for years.
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Tim,
according to the email from Owen at Boatmate, the bow eye location may be a problem with the bow stop location. |
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TRBenj
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What makes that so important, Randy? I hope youre not considering the boat buddy option- MC uses them on their trailers and they arent a very popular feature.
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Randy_in_Ohio
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So from what I understand, the big question is, was the bow eye location moved from the '93 to '99 designs.
Can anyone confirm this or take measurements from a '99 - '02 for me? |
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TRBenj
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The Sport hull did change in '98, but whether it affects the trailer fit is really a function of Boatmate's design. I can guarantee that CC/Ramlin didnt change the trailer design between the 2 boats- but they use a relatively poor fitting wishbone style. My guess is that the '99 Sport trailer would be pretty damn close to your '93, though. The front portion of the boats (2nd and 3rd gen Sports) dont look very (if at all) different to my eye- most of the changes should be in the back half of the running surface (similar to the TSC change on the Ski Nautique).
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Randy_in_Ohio
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So there seems to be some discrepancy on whether or not a trailer intended for a 1999 Sport Nautique will fit my '93 Sport. I have read the brochures and manuals in the reference section and they list both years as having the same length, beam, draft and weight. here is the letter I just got back from Owen at Boatmate:
Hello Randy, I should have sent you a message letting you know that I haven’t made progress confirming whether or not a trailer for a 1999 Sport Nautique would fit your 1993 Sport Nautique. I’ve tried researching the forum, brochures and manuals available at correctcraftfan.com, but nothing I’ve found makes me confident that the trailer will fit perfectly. I’ve talked to the two CC “experts” that I know. Both are adamant that the hull changed between 1993 and 1999, but they are not certain that the hull change would affect the trailer fit. They both think that the bow eye location changed and that the bow stop for the 1999 SN would not be the correct height for the 1993 SN. The “expert” in whom I have the most confidence says that CC used the same trailer for the 1993 SN and the 1993 Ski Nautique and that the trailer had an adjustable bow stop to account for the 18” difference in boat length. I have the fit for the 1993 Ski Nautique, but I’m not confident I can “stretch” the trailer 18” and come up with a perfect fit for your boat. To summarize, I can build you a 1999 Sport Nautique trailer or I can build a 1883 Ski Nautique trailer stretched 18”. I can not guarantee that either on will fit perfectly. I have attached a photo that shows the basic form that this trailer would have. Let me know what you think. I’m sorry I couldn’t come up with a better answer for you. Best regards, Owen E. Shelton BoatMate Trailer, Inc. |
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nautique frk
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I used to work right next door to Boat Mate in Maryville TN at Skiers Choice (Supra/Moomba) They build Trailers for Centurion,Malibu,Supra,Moomba and some Correct Craft. They will build custom as well. Contact Jerry or Owen at Boatmate they can help answer any questions you may have.
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Hollywood
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81nautique
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Trailmaster, That's what I said.
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Hollywood
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Trailmaster, he loves it. I'm sure he'd give you an update on how it's holding up.
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81nautique
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Doesn't Rob Leinen have a Boatmate Trailer
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Hollywood
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Pete, love the marketing, how convenient!
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