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    Posted: April-03-2009 at 3:37pm
Ive only owned my 1986 natique since 06 and I now work at a marina where we do not have a boat ramp. We have hoists. And I am nervous about using the lifting rings. The boat is 23 years old so I worry about the fiberglass cracking.

What would you guys do?
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don't sweat it that's what they where designed for.
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Just be sure to check the whole lifting ring mounting system is still attached to the boat's structure and in good shape.

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Eric,
Adding to Luch's advice, as long as your stringers are in good shape you won't have a problem with cracking. In fact, if they are getting bad, the shock of driving it around in choppy water will do more damage than the steady lifting with the rings.

Are your fellow workers at the marina telling you something?


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Are your fellow workers at the marina telling you something?


Or your own gut?

You should be able to crawl under the front to check the condition there. The gas tank will have to come out for a full inspection of the rear mount.

I'm inclined to go with what Chris said as most are probably in good shape for lifting(neither mount is down in the bilge), but the front lift point on mine would have cracked the gel on the deck.
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My '89 hung on it's rings for three weeks... No signs of cracks or any other damage whatsoever.
As Chris stated, it's what they're designed for.
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Click on my avatar. I lifted mine with no distress at all.
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^^I knew Steve was going to chime in.^^

I love that pic.
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Eric,
My 69 Barracuda Hangs around all the time it is not being driven from the middle of May to early October, no problem!
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Originally posted by WakeSlayer WakeSlayer wrote:

^^I knew Steve was going to chime in.^^

I love that pic.

You can always use a crane and hang up the whole rig



Or just leave the boat hanging



Oh, and I didn't use the front lifting ring because of this boy:

- Gun control means: using BOTH hands!
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Originally posted by Brady Brady wrote:

Eric,
My 69 Barracuda Hangs around all the time it is not being driven from the middle of May to early October, no problem!


Boat hanging around and Charlie checking prop clearance to try a Acme 540:



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well im glad to hear you guys still use your lifting rings all the time. That makes me feel much more secure about using mine.

It wasn't the guys I work with suggesting that I not use them. It is just me being a worrier about my baby Im glad to hear its just me being a big baby about it and that I shouldn't worry as long as my stringers are in good shape...which they are.
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Just as a safety precaution, I recently found that it's a good idea to simply have an occassionly look under your deck and examine your lifting ring system. As most everyone knows, and as Pete hinted in regards to the stringers, the ring isn't bolted to the deck, but thru it on a threaded rod fastened to structure below. We hung a friends 73 Mustang this past summer and to my complete surprise and shock, the rear ring lifted 1/2" off the deck. Lowered the boat down asap, found the lowest nut had come loose and dropped, allowing the opportunity to go upward, and the backing nut/washer up against the small 3/4" plywood backing square directly under the deck had compressed into/thru the plywood. But no damage was done to the deck. So check your components from time to time, FWIW.       
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If you have one that looks something like this change it ( out 78 SN )
Also I found water had wicked under the ring and lay above the deck nut so with wet plywood backing square the rod had rust badly and thinned it, see pic 2 small off cut next to rod and ring with nuts on.





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My old boat lift was a cable lift that used both lift rings to pull it out of the water, it hung there all summer for years.
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what about David Carridine? good method?
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With the rust so bad on my 78 it got me thinking it must have spent a lot of time in brackish/seawater so did a quick Google,salt water keeps wood rot at bay.that's why my stringers were in good condition also said old sailors in wood boats would put salt in the bilge when in fresh water to stop rot starting.
Just the down side is all the steel rots instead.

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Originally posted by uk1979 uk1979 wrote:

With the rust so bad on my 78 it got me thinking it must have spent a lot of time in brackish/seawater so did a quick Google,salt water keeps wood rot at bay.that's why my stringers were in good condition also said old sailors in wood boats would put salt in the bilge when in fresh water to stop rot starting.
Just the down side is all the steel rots instead.



You just gave me some hope that i don't have a stringer job in the near future. a floor job very soon.
and for steel in salt they all rust.
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I think they all answered your question.

Correct Crafts are built to use the lift rings forever.

That is one of our best trademarks.


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Originally posted by The Godfather The Godfather wrote:



Correct Crafts are built to use the lift rings forever.

That is one of our best trademarks.


Dave


Dave,
I have to question your logic. My 54 had carbon steel components below the deck without any protective coating, had never seen salt water and the rust was to a point it was unsafe. All was replaced with stainless when it was restored. My 77 is also showing signs of rust and I'm keeping a close eye on it. Now my 64 which isn't a CC, has all brass below deck hardware inclucding silicon bronze bolts into the keel and stem. That's what it takes to build a "forever" boat.

When I worked at Watercraft back in the late 60's early 70's even then we were concerned lifting a CC. We would at least crawl up under the deck to check the bow lifting ring before hoisting.

Have you checked yours?



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Just like to add when I split the nuts off the back lifting ring the steel angle just came away from the hull all the screws/bolts had corroded through,
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Pete,

I just went out and checked my front lifting ring mount and yes mine are still in good shape.

I have not checked the rear yet, because I will have to remove the stern seat.

Sorry if I said forever to strong as a comment.

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As mentioned above look at them first. The biggest problem is the rear ring. The transome is hidden by the gas tank so you can't see it. I found out the hardway when my 80 SN was being put back on the trailer after gelcoating and it ripped my rear deck off... So be carefull, but I would not recommend taking the chance.

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