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316-Ryan 
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 Topic: RudderPosted: April-27-2009 at 12:21am |
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Another of the long list of kinks that need to be worked out is my rudder. Due to the trailer's lack of a rudder guard, it's slightly curved, convexly with respect to the left side. When I took her out a couple weeks ago, I noticed that turning right was difficult, but turning left was an absolute pain in the ass. It's obviously not the most hydrodynamic shape.
The cable seems to be fine... I can grab the rudder, and easily move the steering wheel. Can this be reshaped? Here's an older picture (the weather's too bad to get a better one right now). 
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316-Ryan
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Posted: April-28-2009 at 1:48pm |
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Nevermind...I just got a stock rudder off an 86 Supreme on ebay.
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316-Ryan
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 12:43am |
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Finally got my new rudder. I've scoured the forum looking for a definitive answer, on whether or not the gas tank needs to come out to drop and swap rudders. I can't seem to find any pictures anywhere showing this.
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Luchog
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 1:42am |
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some rudders have some shaving on one of their front sides to compensate for propeller turn.
I'd check if your new old ore new rudder have some. |
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WakeSlayer
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 1:46am |
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If you can reach the tiller arm bolt, and get to the packing nut, you shouldn't need to remove it. Put a block under your rudder so it doesn't make a big clang on the floor.
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79nautique
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 12:36pm |
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your not going to hurt that bent rudder dropping it on the floor.
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 4:24pm |
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Ha, true.
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79nautique
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 5:02pm |
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but do use a block of wood or something to hold it up when you install the new rudder.
But there is enough room to remove it on a CC not sure if you gas tank is in the way or not, but if you can get to the bolt on top of the rudder, and then the bolt for the clamp feature of the tiller arm off to the side, they should be wire tied togeter, then it should drop right out the bottom without any issue, remove those two bolts pop off the tiller arm then loosen the packing gland nut and it will drop down and out of the housing. Stick the new in, prop it up untill it doesn't go any further up into the hull, climb in the boat, install new packing flax and install packing gland, tighten down by hand install tiller arm and two bolts. HAve someone else push the rudder up as far as it will go and tighten down the gland and wire tie the bolts of the tiller arm and then pop up a cold one and enjoy. don't cover up the area untill you've dunked it into the water and re-adjusted the packing gland, give it a minute to soak up some water and move it side to side lock to lock then tighten down the gland and lock in place with the jam nut go for a spin recheck, if all is good install the seat and enjoy another coldie. |
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316-Ryan
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 7:24pm |
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The new one supposedly came stock on an '86 Supreme... it's nearly three times as thick as the one that's from my '83. It's a girthy beast!
Luch, I thought they were just beveled differently depending on rotation. But again, I concede that I know little about these things. All I know is that it did not want to turn left. |
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316-Ryan
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 7:31pm |
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And Chris, that definitely sounds like a plan. Thanks for the breakdown. Next tuesday is my last final, and I will be immedeiately diving back in and finishing up all the jobs I've started.
I need to start using a real digital camera ... these phone pics can be pretty weak. |
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Posted: May-05-2009 at 8:58pm |
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Ya might want to get your prop tuned up when you get a chance!
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Posted: May-06-2009 at 9:11am |
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Ryan, I know from experience that you can get your rudder straightened. I bent mine after launching the boat ON the ramp once. Called the guys at Delta Prop and asked them if they could straighten it. They said they could if it wasn't bent real bad. Sent it to thenm and got it back in about a week or two STRAIGHT as a board. Give em' a buzz and they'll hook you up.
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316-Ryan
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Posted: May-16-2009 at 11:13pm |
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Finals are over, schools out... for a couple of weeks anyway. Resuming work on the boat.
Steve- I know the prop isn't in the best of shape, but its on a long list of to-dos. Tim- thanks for the info. Do you know about how much it cost you? I got my replacement for less than $60... Just wondering if its even worth it. |
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79nautique
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Posted: May-17-2009 at 2:20pm |
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I would say the damage might be from towing since theres no prop guard, might want to add that to your list of to-do's
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Posted: August-04-2009 at 3:49am |
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hey brainos
Any decent post about about correct rudder removal (with pics?) looked above and saved this topic, but would love to see pics as i have to install the ACME 542 now! thank you |
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81nautique
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Posted: August-04-2009 at 10:40am |
Are you repairing/replacing the rudder? Because if it's just a prop change you don't need to remove the rudder for that. |
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saffer
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Posted: August-04-2009 at 6:18pm |
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yep, just prop replacement, seems pretty cramped.
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Posted: August-04-2009 at 8:16pm |
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It's cramped but the prop will come off without removing the rudder.
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Posted: August-05-2009 at 4:52am |
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awesome,thank you
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