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Dave, as Marty noted, I've got my original staff from my Classic and would volunteer it for service in the process of creating a new one(s) if need be. I've actually never taken my boat out with it in place for fear of losing it as others mentioned.

-Windwingless in Carolina     

Terp wrote: Mojo, when I get home later this week I'll try to get what you need for specs on the flagstaff if you like. Other than weight and dimensions, any specifics that would be helpful?

Terp,
Sounds good, all I really need is some good digital pictures of the item, base dimensions and the specific weight. Let me know if there is any specific area you can see a "parting line" where the two halves of the tool come together to make the part. These parts were originally made in Brass and or Zinc die cast. Aluminum again will not work because of the chrome finish specs. Aluminum however could work if you all would accept a polished surface without any chrome????
Drop me a line: d.dorsen@worldnet.att.net I'd be more than happy to check into it from a number of different options and manufacturing methods..

Moj'

Brrrr. I mean, I will try that.

I was worried about damaging the light if I pushed very hard. I may need a smaller o-ring so it stretches thinner. I did try a couple different sizes.

Terp, if you have any good book stores near you look for Classics Monthly . The October issue of this English car magazine goes into the method of sand casting. Quite interesting reading but done in a way that it's easy for someone like us to understand. Things like material shrinkage during cooling and just plain experence are gone into but it's not very technical. Messing around for over 25 years with British cars and bikes it's really amazing the cottage industry they have in place and even sometimes the original manufacturer is still in operation.
Here's some other info-metal casting

Pete,   do you have a preferred method of moistening? silicon? spit?

Lewy, I edited my previous one a couple of times, to make sure I wasn't a target.

I just changed out the "O" ring last spring on my 64. Yeh, it's scary knowing that's the only thing that holds it in but at least it's tighter than the wood flag staffs! You need to moisten it before it will go in.

Mojo--Dave, Believe me if I had a bow light staff, I would most definetly let you borrow it through this off-season to see what you could come up with. I'd be happy with a cardboard one chromed out if it would hold up.It justs has to hold up .I wouldn't care what it's made out of. But you'd have to talk to Terp-- about the dimensions,weight,etc, real good close up pics or Wakeslayer has one--also Santa has one hanging up in his workshop(garage) at the lake. ReidP I'm sure would let you borrow it to see what you could conjur up!. Put me on the list for the 1st one!!!The one I won the other week like I said in my post,I need to turn it down for my 1/2" hole. Not unless you wanted to borrow that one. You could go out on your own and slim it down,make the holes in it to lighten it up and then the real kicker is the mounting shaft. I still can't believe that the only thing that holds it in the bow light is an 'o'ring. It has a little groove machined in it with the 'o'ring in it and you just push it in the top of the bow light and it stays! E-mail me directly if you want me to send you the one I won (pic in above post) and it'll be on it's way. Thanks,Marty Mabe

I had a friends Dad quote me on windshield brackets. If I bought ten sets, they would cost around $310 each. Machined out of aluminum. Only one member replied about a post I put up. it makes it nearly impossible to do. The first set was going to be something like $600-800.
Just silly. I really need a set, but am not willing to pony up $2700 in brackets to get one set. I imagine they would sell at some point, but.....

Mojo wrote: I can have the tooling and part cost quoted with one of our foundries in Taiwan.

You're killing me Moj'...

Why do we love our Correct Crafts, because they are an assembled mass of Asian parts?

8122pbrainard wrote: The die cast CC hull tags would be easier!!!

This is what I thought might be in demand the most. Not sure why I thought that but I did. In regards to this issue, I was thinking more along the lines of the "less complex" pieces. Could a flagstaff or step plate frame not be die cast? (seriously because I honestly don't know). I could see a bow light being very complex and expensive, not even considering replicating the globes. Not to mention most guys seem to have the light but not the staff.

Terp,
The problem is just that "low demand".. These are zinc die cast parts. Not only is the cast tooling expensive, so would be a casting run in the "10's" of pieces.. Might be able to get them done with forging and machining for less.. Depends on the material used...

Maybe Pete knows what material was used.. With one part measured with a CMM machine, I can have the tooling and part cost quoted with one of our foundries in Taiwan. I would need a part, or the dimensions and net weight of the part...

Might be able to pop these out on a small volume base. It's worth asking anyway.. Who wants to draw one of these things up. ???

Moj'

Great find Marty! Glad you won them. Out of curiosity, what key word were you searching E-bay for when you came across those?

I did get that Nautalloy light & staff after the original winner backed out. It is beautiful. Not sure what the deal was w/ the original winner. Maybe I was "bidding" against the seller, who knows. I don't think much about it. After reading your post, I made the assumption you quit bidding when it hit $250. I shouldn't have assumed and if I was wrong, you have my apologies. One thing I won't do (at least intentionally) is try to beat another CCF member out of a sale or purchase. I will keep an eye out for the staff for you.

You know, this brings up a thought that crosses my mind occasionally and that is the idea of recreating some of these more popular and hard to find pieces. I know the demand is low, but would it really be all that difficult? I have no idea what is exactly involved in the casting process but a casual conversation I had w/ a fellow a few weeks back led me to believe that the process wasn't overly expensive or difficult to undertake.   

I did get your e-mail this afternoon Marty. Thanks for the lead on MWCC. I'll check on that.

Pete, That Nautalloy light and staff was beautiful. How far off is that light from what Marty already has his Skylark? Maybe not original but for me, I would have to file that one as cool enough to bend the rules a little.    Just a little?
What light should be on the Skylark. I have an extra like what is on both the Pony and the SN. It does have a little ding out of it, but...

WakeSlayer wrote: Why not just put the whole assembly on your Skylark?

Come on Mike!! I get someone to think original and then you suggest this?

Marty,
Keep up with the original philosophy and keep looking.

Sorry, I thought you had won the new Nautalloy light and staff. My mistake. It was Terp, what a lucky score that was.