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    Posted: October-30-2009 at 12:30am
Was anybody bidding on these? If so, sorry,cause I got 'em!





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I am going to give you a dollar so you can buy we a lottery ticket. You are the lucky man right now. You must be living right.

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I though that those were mine... I need to check ebay again
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$181+! I wonder how many CCFs were in that bidding war. The last pair of new wind wings went for $69, although that pair had a post on CCF saying they wouldn't fit a Correct Craft.   
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Someone help me find a bow staff for my 66 Skylark and we might work out a trade on my old set of wing windows.
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Didn't you win that brand new one a few weeks ago?
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I won it yes, but it's a 5/8" hole and I knew that going in, but I'm turning it down for the 1/2" hole. Then I'll have to groove it for the 'o'ring for the tight fit or I'm thinking about brazing a screw on it .That way I just screw it into the bottom half of the light. But that is all speculation now. I'm still wanting that OE Nautalloy Style.
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Why not just put the whole assembly on your Skylark?
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This was the staff I won.

It's close to this but still not OE. Where's Pete when you need him!
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Sorry, I thought you had won the new Nautalloy light and staff. My mistake. It was Terp, what a lucky score that was.
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Yeah. Didn't the original bidder back out? I wonder what his reasons for was. It must have been one of those 'snipers' just running up the bids. I hate those guys!
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Originally posted by WakeSlayer WakeSlayer wrote:

Why not just put the whole assembly on your Skylark?


Come on Mike!! I get someone to think original and then you suggest this?

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Originally posted by MartyMabe MartyMabe wrote:

Yeah. Didn't the original bidder back out? I wonder what his reasons for was. It must have been one of those 'snipers' just running up the bids. I hate those guys!


I thought, but I'm not sure, that the original bidder was overseas and the seller had stated he would only ship here
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Pete, That Nautalloy light and staff was beautiful. How far off is that light from what Marty already has his Skylark? Maybe not original but for me, I would have to file that one as cool enough to bend the rules a little.    Just a little?
What light should be on the Skylark. I have an extra like what is on both the Pony and the SN. It does have a little ding out of it, but...

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Wake-Slayer, Mike the OE light was the one that sold on e-bay, and this is my light on the ole 66. So it's OE.Just still looking for a staff!

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Great find Marty! Glad you won them. Out of curiosity, what key word were you searching E-bay for when you came across those?

I did get that Nautalloy light & staff after the original winner backed out. It is beautiful. Not sure what the deal was w/ the original winner. Maybe I was "bidding" against the seller, who knows. I don't think much about it. After reading your post, I made the assumption you quit bidding when it hit $250. I shouldn't have assumed and if I was wrong, you have my apologies. One thing I won't do (at least intentionally) is try to beat another CCF member out of a sale or purchase. I will keep an eye out for the staff for you.

You know, this brings up a thought that crosses my mind occasionally and that is the idea of recreating some of these more popular and hard to find pieces. I know the demand is low, but would it really be all that difficult? I have no idea what is exactly involved in the casting process but a casual conversation I had w/ a fellow a few weeks back led me to believe that the process wasn't overly expensive or difficult to undertake.   

I did get your e-mail this afternoon Marty. Thanks for the lead on MWCC. I'll check on that.
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Wing Window Brackets

I think these would work on a CC. Terp,I think I typed in boat hardware.

Didn't see these.
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Terp,
The problem is just that "low demand".. These are zinc die cast parts. Not only is the cast tooling expensive, so would be a casting run in the "10's" of pieces.. Might be able to get them done with forging and machining for less.. Depends on the material used...

Maybe Pete knows what material was used.. With one part measured with a CMM machine, I can have the tooling and part cost quoted with one of our foundries in Taiwan. I would need a part, or the dimensions and net weight of the part...

Might be able to pop these out on a small volume base. It's worth asking anyway.. Who wants to draw one of these things up. ???

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Marty,
Dave is correct that the tooling cost and a short run of 10 pieces would kill you. Die casting is out of the picture even though it's a easy process. Even with CMM and CNC I feel you'd end up with bow lights costing better than $1000 each!!

Short run prototyping really isn't that cheap. Using a CMM thousands of coordinates would be needed due to the complex curvature. After CNC machining (probably aluminum) you would end up with tons of machining marks so now there's hand labor in buffing/polishing. We haven't even got to plating yet!

The die cast CC hull tags would be easier!!!


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

The die cast CC hull tags would be easier!!!


This is what I thought might be in demand the most. Not sure why I thought that but I did. In regards to this issue, I was thinking more along the lines of the "less complex" pieces. Could a flagstaff or step plate frame not be die cast? (seriously because I honestly don't know). I could see a bow light being very complex and expensive, not even considering replicating the globes. Not to mention most guys seem to have the light but not the staff.
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Marty,
Can you give me some basic dimensions and weight of the light staff. I'm curious what I can come up with..

And Pete's right, even out of aluminum, the post cast finishing work would be brutal. That's why all the chrome work we have contracted to make is cast out of zinc. It plates well, but the material is a lot more expensive..

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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

I can have the tooling and part cost quoted with one of our foundries in Taiwan.


You're killing me Moj'...

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Yep, sorry HW, I didn't invent the concept, greedy American's did
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I had a friends Dad quote me on windshield brackets. If I bought ten sets, they would cost around $310 each. Machined out of aluminum. Only one member replied about a post I put up. it makes it nearly impossible to do. The first set was going to be something like $600-800.
Just silly. I really need a set, but am not willing to pony up $2700 in brackets to get one set. I imagine they would sell at some point, but.....
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If I can get my hands on the tooling, I could get this and many other parts made affordably. From scratch is just not gonna happen.
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Mojo--Dave, Believe me if I had a bow light staff, I would most definetly let you borrow it through this off-season to see what you could come up with. I'd be happy with a cardboard one chromed out if it would hold up.It justs has to hold up .I wouldn't care what it's made out of. But you'd have to talk to Terp-- about the dimensions,weight,etc, real good close up pics or Wakeslayer has one--also Santa has one hanging up in his workshop(garage) at the lake. ReidP I'm sure would let you borrow it to see what you could conjur up!. Put me on the list for the 1st one!!!The one I won the other week like I said in my post,I need to turn it down for my 1/2" hole. Not unless you wanted to borrow that one. You could go out on your own and slim it down,make the holes in it to lighten it up and then the real kicker is the mounting shaft. I still can't believe that the only thing that holds it in the bow light is an 'o'ring. It has a little groove machined in it with the 'o'ring in it and you just push it in the top of the bow light and it stays! E-mail me directly if you want me to send you the one I won (pic in above post) and it'll be on it's way. Thanks,Marty Mabe
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I tried fitting an o-ring on the flagstaff and it would not go in the light. Tried a few different ones. When I actually use the staff, I put a zip tie to the vent. If that thing bounced out into the lake I would die.
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I just changed out the "O" ring last spring on my 64. Yeh, it's scary knowing that's the only thing that holds it in but at least it's tighter than the wood flag staffs! You need to moisten it before it will go in.


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Pete I think you need to edit that post quick before Hollywood starts quoting from it.
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Pete,   do you have a preferred method of moistening? silicon? spit?

Lewy, I edited my previous one a couple of times, to make sure I wasn't a target.
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