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79nautique
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79nautique
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first it wasn't a crate motor second the stringers where fine, Third i wasn't going to dump that much cash in to a toy that I was never planing on keeping forever in the first place. What advantage does carbon fiber have in a medical since anyway? want to guess?, ever try bonding aluminum to it? how about machining it, marking it? not easy tasks and like it's really hard to subsitute carbon woven cloth for fiberglass woven cloth, why spend the extra cash no advantage. |
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79nautique
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sorry never offer too help Timmy.
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75 Tique
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“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
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TRBenj
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...and you dont know mine, either. All I know about your skill set is what I read on here, and what Ive seen with my own eyes. Thanks for the offer to help turn wrenches, but I think I'll pass. |
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8122pbrainard
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Chris,
You mean you just dropped a crate engine in on top of old rotten 79 stringers?? No carbon fiber rebuild? |
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79nautique
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doubt that I've been a product designer for almost as long as you've been alive. I've been paid quite nicely to make someones idea a reality, showed the proper manufacturing methods and techniques to accomplish the task at hand and meet all design requirements. But hell any one can design ignition systems, human implants and fighter jets, Hell whats a little cosa board compared to carbon fiber, and titanium childs play actually, but hell he's never been apart of record breaking speed setting vehicle, repeated Indy 500 winning engines or the latest aircraft engine technology that powers stealth aircraft that don't need a runway, so yes it would be a major step down for me and quite simple actually but EE's seem to know it all but always have to have a mechincal guy pick them up after they fall over the hurdles in front of them. Lets over analize how to create a lip to mount a board. please you don't have a clue what my skill set is, because I'm not quoting from a book or online source, it's from experience that you don't have. |
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TRBenj
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No, its just that this build is a touch more involved than dropping a crate motor in and calling it a day- you might be a bit out of your league.
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79nautique
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no Tim doesn't like fine details or quick easy proven methods or snap-on tools and I really wouldn't like to slow down an wait for him to catch up and over analize any issues.
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TRBenj
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I attempted to post a quick update over the weekend, but lost what I wrote... I was too frustrated to start over, so I went skiing instead!
The BFN is coming along- we dumped the rushed timeline once the GL trip was out, so progress has been slower the last several weeks. The engine has been test fit and mock-aligned, then yanked back out. Its in the process of getting bolted back together- please dont send Chris to "help". Ive also cut the floor back a bit based on the final engine location, and cut the hole for the pylon. Just a few finishing glass touches in the bilge and it will be ready for paint. Ill get some pics up soon. |
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8122pbrainard
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I think he's stuck on getting the engine back together. Maybe we need to send Chris east to help out!! He'd have plenty of "Timmy" comments!!
Tim, Yes, what is going on? BTW, Roger was absolutely amazed with the Coosa board samples he saw at GL. He being such a freak on composites, he wishes it was available in the UK. It is nice stuff!! |
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wakeboardin2k4
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Hows the progress going gentlemen?
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"I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home"
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87MCProstar
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almost two weeks and no updates, is everything going ok Tim?
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eric lavine
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thats only cause the Post office is right next to the place where i buy the Baby Backs lol
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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TRBenj
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Haha, thanks Eric!
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eric lavine
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to the post office......your almost number one son, on the favor list lol
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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eric lavine
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if you could only see the swim platform gary Blackburn handcrafted for me
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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The Godfather
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The only thing stock in that boat is the beer.... Looking good Tim !! Hate to cover that very nice floor job.. |
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storm34
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I guess just a little more than Stock lol |
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87MCProstar
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awesome! Tim anytime you need an extra hand doing anything from gophering to holding something just let me know. my schedule is crazy but always willing and able to help a friend when i can. what are your plans for the 454? is it going to be stock rebuild or a little more than stock?
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66Skylark
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WOW! Fantastic job Tim! I can’t wait to see it finished up and on the water…
Have a great holiday weekend! Kyle |
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Donald80SN
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Tim,
Very nice. This boat will last forever. Thanks for sharing. Donald |
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TRBenj
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Ha, thanks Tim. The damn thing still isnt done yet though and the 4th is upon us... GL is only a few weeks away so it better get wrapped up soon.
As promised, here are some updated pics. As mentioned previously, we covered the entire floor with 3 layers of glass. The front (foamed) section got mat/cloth/mat, the coosa got cloth/cloth/mat. I also ground the hull down and we put 2 strips of biax down the middle. You can also see that the angles to raise the gas tank had been bedded. Here are the front stringer blocks bedded (they have since been filleted and glassed). We figure a little extra support between the stringers to keep everything straight wouldnt hurt- after all, the mains are quite a bit taller under the engine than they were originally. Here are the kick plate panel supports. They were glassed before installing the panel. We also built the rear panel, which will consist of 1/2" coosa with 3" strips of coosa running width wise. There are 2 layers of cloth between the layers, and one (so far) on the 3" strips, as well as one on the fillets. Ill snap another pic later to help show what I mean. The top will get several layers of cloth, and at least one layer of mat. Even with no glass on the top side, it seems to be pretty solid. It has to be, as it will need to span the full width of the bilge. Here are the supports it will sit on: There will be some 2"x2" angle aluminum screwed to these 3/4" supports, so the panel will sit on 2-3/4" on either side. The extra order of foam showed up this week, so I finished filling the air box, then ground it smooth and bedded the top and kick plate panels onto it. I taped it all in last night- no pics of that yet. The kick plate has 2 layers of glass on the back side and the top has 2 layers on both top and bottom. This should help screw retention for accessories, carpeted panels, etc. I filled the gaps around the pipes with thickened resin. Ill be going back and 5200'ing them as well, for good measure. I also trimmed the inlet to the batt box, so here's what it looks like (prior to final painting): Last night we got the engine assembly started, so the cam is in and one head is on. We measured our pushrod lengths and will get those ordered up today- hopefully we're looking at a launch sometime next week. |
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87MCProstar
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it still amazes me the time and effort but on my Tim and his dad, its fun just looking from the beginning of this thread to the end. can't wait to see final product.
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gun-driver
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Thanks I'm on the '85 project again and getting close to laying the floor and painting the bilge.
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TRBenj
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Ha, I think we did Joel.
Ill be using interlux bilgekote (white) for the bilge paint. |
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gun-driver
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Tim what are you going to use for bilge paint?
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M3Fan
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I've turned my tab to the left at 45* for the past 15 years on my aluminum cans. Did we already discuss this?
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TRBenj
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Roger, those look familiar!
The flappers arent too noisy, but I do notice them sometimes at idle on my '90. So far this week we have ground and sanded the floor and hull, cut, bed and glassed the rear panel supports, put a few more layers of glass on the rear panel, bedded and glassed the gas tank supports and cut/bedded/glassed the final mini-ribs between the stringers. The new foam showed up yesterday so I finished pouring the air box, trimmed it up and bedded the top down as well. Just a bit more foaming at the edge of the wall tonight and then we can glass it in. Dad put some time into building a mold for the side pockets- so those are built too. Tonight we'll get the airbox wrapped up (hopefully), do a bit of trimming/sanding, and cut our holes in the mains for the drains. We're going to need the cradle back pretty quick so we can finalize the rear edge of the front floor section, as well as the final pylon location so I can bed/glass the hull cup and drill a hole in the floor. Otherwise, we're just a round of sanding and fairing away from being ready for bilge paint. Then we're on to engine assembly... I ordered all my tools to check pushrod length this week. I had forgotten that we'll almost certainly need new ones- the new cam has a smaller base circle than the original. Hopefully this wont be a hold up going forward. More pics soon. |
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uk1979
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Thanks Tim but in truth its probably my current desk holders that helped
I didn't know about a noise issue with internal flaps thanks for the heads up. Roger. |
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Lets have a go
56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
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