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Originally posted by Swatkinz Swatkinz wrote:

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Do you work as an engineer or something in ortho implants? Just curious as I work in medical devices



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Tim...Hurry up on the pictures...this is getting out of hand
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penial implants?

So, the truth comes out - your wife wants you to go for one!!!


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79,
Do you work as an engineer or something in ortho implants? Just curious as I work in medical devices
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What would we do without good ole 79? He's like the brother that you will scream and fight with one second, and drink with the next. And sometimes say stuff just to get something out of him. I do enjoy his posts and they add a bit of excitement to the forums for me.

Tim, love everything you do. You've helped me out a lot!
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Thanks for the kind words Eric. Chris is right except for one thing- Im pretty sure I get under his skin more than he's willing to admit! He's easily flustered, as demonstrated by his erratic dart game.


No that's the all day drinking and the third game tank dive doing that. And no-one really gets under my skin I shrug it off and move on 99% of the time.
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I thought it all had to do with your '90 smoking his '79 at GL a few years back.
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Thanks for the kind words Eric. Chris is right except for one thing- Im pretty sure I get under his skin more than he's willing to admit! He's easily flustered, as demonstrated by his erratic dart game.
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I've meet Tim as well and I guess some of you are not aware of that or that we jab at each other quite often, I just do a little bit better job getting under his skin than he does mine and with my background some topics I view it in a different light than others and say oh that's nice where others go wow how did you do that. Again a laugh never hurts anyone and I know Tim laugh at it just as much as I do
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+1 to everything C-bass said.

I've had the pleasure of meeting Tim on more than once occasion and asking for his help a few times via email. I feel he is one of the more humble and down to earth people on this site and I've never thought of him to be one looking for a pay on the back for his work. And you get a good feeling of how humble he is and where he comes from when you meet his parents so it would be tough for me to say that he is "egotistical" or looking to show off.

It would be far easier for him to have not taken any pictures throughout the BFN rebuild and simply just done it. But he was kind enough to show those of us with a lower slippery a different way to rebuild one of our boats and I think that is commendable.
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Originally posted by Air206 Air206 wrote:

maybe even more than Pete! HA.......

I thinks it's a close "toss up".


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You boys make me smile ......... personally, I don't think either of you fellas have a day job; You both spend more time on this site during the day than Keith - maybe even more than Pete! HA.......

Keep up the banter.... lightens my day!
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

nor do I need to post pictures or need that pat on the back, confidence is a beautiful thing, seeing your handy work drive past or see it under the hood or sticking out of someone's leg holding it together or flying over head on the news is much more satisfiing and doesn't require me to raise up and shout out hey look at me and what I did to feel important or accomplishment. Whats that Humble maybe




Okay you might want to quit digging a hole for yourself. I don't think there are many on here who would disagree with me when I say that you, above most people on here, are constantly trying to get people to look at you and your accomplishments, and giving yourself "pats on the back". You're trying to act like you have tons of humility...please.
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YOU ASSUME WAY TOO MUCH

I think Ive read and seen plenty to draw fair conclusions. Youre right though, Ive never met anyone quite as humble as you.
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Tim, still cheaper than buying new or even used. And there's always that special buyer.


New, yes- but I promise it wont look new on the outside! Used is tough- I think most people would fail to appreciate how much money and effort is involved with any kind of proper structural restoration, let alone one of this magnitude. They'd see similar (unrestored) boats for half the price (or less) and see no value in one like this. Im ok with that since this one is a keeper, but Im afraid thats just the nature of these things.

A special buyer is another thing altogether- and finding one would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. Just think though- if you were to swap your Mustang for $10k, that would buy at least one runner and several projects... maybe even some with V8's.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Chris, I can only imagine having you on one of my project teams- you must be a joy to work with. Like I said, most of this thread is way over your head since youve never dug into a boat like this. Just because you cant recognize these features does not mean they arent there. Thanks for trying to help, but Ill continue to take the valuable advice from those who have been there before and know better, rather than the blowhards who continue to speculate and postulate how things should be done.

Bruce, thanks. It wont be going on the market, but I can assure you that no one would buy it if it did... the costs have far exceeded the boat's value.


RFLMAO YOU ASSUME WAY TOO MUCH, R&D not day to day BS record keeping so the Skill level is pretty high and if you don't work well your not working on the team. Quality of the work I never knocked that, I personaly don't see the complexity or difficulty, but to some maybe they do, to me no I have to know several different manufacturing methods and the associated materials used so I view it a little different than the average unknowing joe blow from kokomo so it takes alittle more to empress me or to ask questions, nor do I need to post pictures or need that pat on the back, confidence is a beautiful thing, seeing your handy work drive past or see it under the hood or sticking out of someone's leg holding it together or flying over head on the news is much more satisfiing and doesn't require me to raise up and shout out hey look at me and what I did to feel important or accomplishment. Whats that Humble maybe, I get asked to fix many different things from my friends and they are always asking how do you know how to do that I smile and say I just do and they say thank you for helping me out and saving me money.
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Tim, still cheaper than buying new or even used.

And there's always that special buyer. David & I went out for the first long cruise in the Mustang last week and a guy pulled up to us in a Colbalt all excited about the Mustang and wanted to know if a boat like that could be bought for under $10k. I told him to go to the ACBS show in Naples in August and the boat might be there and he might be able to buy it for that.
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Chris, I can only imagine having you on one of my project teams- you must be a joy to work with. Like I said, most of this thread is way over your head since youve never dug into a boat like this. Just because you cant recognize these features does not mean they arent there. Thanks for trying to help, but Ill continue to take the valuable advice from those who have been there before and know better, rather than the blowhards who continue to speculate and postulate how things should be done.

Bruce, thanks. It wont be going on the market, but I can assure you that no one would buy it if it did... the costs have far exceeded the boat's value.
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Tim, I hadn't been following this thread for awhile. The work you're doing on that boat is fantastic. If you were to put it on the market once it completed, people would line up to buy it, including me.

79, I don't get it. This is one of the better rebuilds I've seen on the site.
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Originally posted by Waterdog Waterdog wrote:

Hey Chris ,
If you want to bond carbon fiber to al. just use paa al. with an acetone wipe just prior to bonding or fpl etch or al oxide slurrie blast, hope i answered it for ya.


sorry for the application it required a compination of a mechanical fit and chemical bond to exceed the goals for the appliance's application.

Timmy sometimes it goes right over your head and you go into justifications mode, Skill Design for that particualr piece very simple several avanues to go down, yet you struggled with it, your coping CC's efforts and adding creature comforts only, not design improvements, big deal more bracing woop tee doo, figure out how to add a humeral head to an implant with varable offsets and still be removable for revision after implanted, now that's a little tougher and requires a very strong design skill set EE's never get trained for or have.
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Hey Chris ,
If you want to bond carbon fiber to al. just use paa al. with an acetone wipe just prior to bonding or fpl etch or al oxide slurrie blast, hope i answered it for ya. Sorry Chris, i do learn stuff from you AND Tim. My skill set consists of if you don't make a mastake you aint workin'
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that got interesting a little, but sorry to hear you didn't make GL deadline.
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Larry....that's hilarious.   

Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

But hell any one can design ignition systems, human implants and fighter jets,


Not doubting any of your experience...but why exaggerate? I understand you work at Rolls, but last I checked turbine engines are only 1 piece of the fighter jet puzzle. And unless their design team hierarchy is a lot different than most places, I'm guessing you design only certain components of the turbine engine puzzle.

On a side note...do they still make the Allison 250 there?
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

and yes I did see you struggle with a very simple task so from a design stand point your very weak in that skill set

If you think that the rear panel support was the most difficult aspect of this design, that really shows a basic lack of understanding of what is involved in this sort of project. I guess I shouldnt be surprised, as youve never undertaken one yourself- and that would explain why your input was way out in left field. Another example of our resident Keyboard Cowboy.

As far as "copying" everyone else, Im not sure I follow. Yes, I leaned heavily on those who have come down this path before- specifically Joe with the Coosa, and the other BFN owners who have turned out some beautiful rebuilds. I think it would have been foolish to ignore such things. However, if you cant identify the unique aspects of this design, then there is no hope in explaining them to you. In the meantime, you can keep on producing "brilliant designs" on your blank piece of paper. I assure you that I will be no less satisfied with the results of the final product without your input. Besides, Im just a hobbiest working on a little father-son project, here.
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