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IMO, I would start with the basics...timing points, plugs wires etc. Cheap fuel will also cause hard starts. If you are running low octane you may need to turn down the timing a bit to compensate. Be methodical about the process to avoid shooting in the dark.most folks just start turning screws without checking the basics.
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

   
Stay away from all that additive stuff my friend. I have been told, Seafoam, Marvel Mystery, All the carb junk by STP, or the all the other brands to pour in your gas tank will mess a 4 barrel carb in no time. The only stuff I have been told to pour in there is 89 octance gas, and Stabile and that is it.

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You have been told but no first hand experience!! I've been around for a little more time that you have and do have the first hand experience. While I generally agree that additives are not needed and should be avoided, that's not the case with the Marvel and the Seafoam. They happen to be the only two "snake oils" I strongly believe in. BTW, You being so young, you may not have even heard the term "snake oil"!!!


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Thanks for the heads up!
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Originally posted by rman56 rman56 wrote:

I might try the Seafoam to clean it out. I was talking to DIM and he thought I need the change the filter in the fuel canister. Thats the one thing I didnt even think of. Thanks Ryan

Stay away from all that additive stuff my friend. I have been told, Seafoam, Marvel Mystery, All the carb junk by STP, or the all the other brands to pour in your gas tank will mess a 4 barrel carb in no time. The only stuff I have been told to pour in there is 89 octance gas, and Stabile and that is it.
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Hey thanks guys! No pissing match, this all for ***************s and giggles. My little problem I think of the hard starting when hot is from not being tuned. I think one or maybe more our not firing properly. Wires may corrode through sitting over time. Which cause miss fire and and takes a full charged battery to the limit. But my boat runs real good out of the hole, and top end, just couple niches in the starting. I get it worked out.

It is a "open" ticket anytime on that coors light..

We talking speed for fun, can I cheat then? Can I borrow my friends Baja 332 with twin 502's, supercharged. He run up there about 80+..   
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Since owning my boat I have never considered it a speed boat. 12 year old kids around here fly past you at 65+ on their jet ski's. The mere 42ish is laughable compared to them. In my eyes 75+ if fast on the water. Aren't theses tow boats by the way?
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Originally posted by rman56 rman56 wrote:

I might try the Seafoam to clean it out. I was talking to DIM and he thought I need the change the filter in the fuel canister. Thats the one thing I didnt even think of. Thanks Ryan


if your refering to the fuel and water seperator then yes that needs done as well.
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I might try the Seafoam to clean it out. I was talking to DIM and he thought I need the change the filter in the fuel canister. Thats the one thing I didnt even think of. Thanks Ryan
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Originally posted by Nautiquehunter Nautiquehunter wrote:

Did I miss something here? How did this post turn into a pissing match?


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You did miss something! You haven't been paying attention! Lee's been making some statements about other boats owners always seeing his transom because his boat is so fast. Then when the small minor detail of his choke not working came up, the comment was made "tongue in cheek" about that being the reason for the speedy boat!!!

Pissing match? I don't see it that way. It was just some poking on the speed subject and explained as such. You know how the speed subject gets here!! I feel Lee understands that now as well.


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Ryan,

You might pour in a can of Seafoam too. That stuff seems to work pretty good to clean things out a bit.

Sheesh, y'all are harsh sometimes ;-)

And, what's wrong with CL?
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:


I never said I was the fastest. I just dump lots of money in big and fancy bone, mine is very healthy. I am not that stupid to even think of saying I get laughed at.

I am so sorry guys you meet a very confident person. All I want to do is fit in a mechanic. If it involves some nuts, and a little muscle, well I am in. I love mine dearly. It is my first one, as I can see some of you guys are die hards and think you guys are great, but damb, can I get some mouth and enjoyment. I do want too, this is the best site. I hope we can all get down and drink a cold one and talk CC.


I don't typically talk CCs when I'm gettin' down, drink cold ones yeah.
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Did I miss something here? How did this post turn into a pissing match?
Bottom line is if you have a Holly and its running rich first check the Power valve if its good check the float level. As for speed my 89 351 does 42 mph and the 08 350 does 39 mph both are stock. Definitely not the fastest but more than enough for all the water sports we do.
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Do you get an "open container" ticket with a Coors light?
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Oh no, another Coors lite drinker. Lee, we'll have to get you together with HW!!

Regarding you're getting upset with some of our comments, maybe we should have used some more of the emoticons however, Greg said it very well. Also, you are not the first person to come on site, start talking about how fast there boat is and then get worked over.

Regarding that race. We would never expect you to run agaist a boat that's had mods done to it. It would be a equal hull and engine just for your education. BTW, those boats you've run and end up looking at your transom, what are they? Equal or Rowboats?


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Well Lee from being around here for a while, I can tell you coming on here being cocky not confident will get you where you are here today. All of the guys here are great to help out, but when you open the door to get hammered like you have, look out. Relax, ask questions, give opinions, have a great time, just loose some of the my d__k is bigger than your d__k attitude & learn from some of the best resources of Correct Crafts around (not me by the way). Now, if you make it over to Atlanta I will let you buy the first round!   

Sounds great! I will be more on the humble side and enjoy yalls company. I apologize ski for the comment, some people just think they know it all. Hey, no prob on the drink, I have family in Meritta GA, and go to Lake Lanierr all the time. Long as you drink coors light..
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Well Lee from being around here for a while, I can tell you coming on here being cocky not confident will get you where you are here today. All of the guys here are great to help out, but when you open the door to get hammered like you have, look out. Relax, ask questions, give opinions, have a great time, just loose some of the my d__k is bigger than your d__k attitude & learn from some of the best resources of Correct Crafts around (not me by the way). Now, if you make it over to Atlanta I will let you buy the first round!   
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

Originally posted by skicat skicat wrote:

Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

I been told that the choke is open at first when cold, then once the boat heats up the choke closes.


Must be why yours is so fast!


LMAO


skicat 2001, no it's just the opposite, closed when coldopen when hot


Well Lee, are you bringing that fast boat to GL or not?? I'd like to see you run with the big boys!!

I never said I was the fastest boat,you guys need to listen.I just said mine runs with best of them. Which could mean that not the 454's or the one's that have dumped lots of time and money in there's. Not bigger heads, and all that fancy ***************. But for a bone stock 351, mine is very healthy. I am not that stupid to even think of saying some of these Nautiques on here, that I can out run them. I know I get laughed at. I have a good mechanic in Austin that is a friend of mine, and knows my boat in and out.He has told me many times that it is one of the best looking and running Natiques he services.
I am so sorry guys you meet a very confident person. All I want to do is fit in on here.I am not a mechanic, or very mechanical. If it involves some nuts and bolts, and a little muscle, well I am in. I love boats, I grew up on direct inboard boats, and love mine dearly.It is my first one, as I can see some of you guys are die hards and own several generation CC.I am think you guys are great, but damb, can I get some help when I ask a question. Instead of being bad mouthed and cut down. If not, that is fine, I can take my Nautique problems and enjoyment elsewhere. I do not want too, this is the best site. I hope we can all get along and one day we will all get to sit down and drink a cold one and talk CC.

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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

Originally posted by skicat skicat wrote:

Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

I been told that the choke is open at first when cold, then once the boat heats up the choke closes.


Must be why yours is so fast!


LMAO


skicat 2001, no it's just the opposite, closed when coldopen when hot


Well Lee, are you bringing that fast boat to GL or not?? I'd like to see you run with the big boys!!


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Originally posted by skicat skicat wrote:

Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

I been told that the choke is open at first when cold, then once the boat heats up the choke closes.


Must be why yours is so fast!


LMAO


skicat 2001, no it's just the opposite, closed when coldopen when hot
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That has nothing to do with speed.
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

I been told that the choke is open at first when cold, then once the boat heats up the choke closes.


Must be why yours is so fast!


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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

I been told that the choke is open at first when cold, then once the boat heats up the choke closes.


Must be why yours is so fast!
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I been told that the choke is open at first when cold, then once the boat heats up the choke closes.
Hey Chris, the top of the carb, you can take the top of the carb off to see in there.You will see fuel correct. How much do you want to see in there? I bet with my little problem, my boat is getting to much fuel when it is hot. The hard cranking problem. We will see Wednesday, I am heading to the lake then.
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Where I am we dont get much cold weather in the summer, so you really dont need much choke activity. The stock setting tends to keep the choke on too long for me, so I have it turned down a couple of notches. I just wish it had a little more idle during warm up, but all the Holley marines I have seen do not have a choke fast idle adjustment. I guess that is for some safety reason.
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I will also check that too. Thanks
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Yep agreed with the fuel thing first. Didn't mean to tell you to change the gaskets right away, if that's what it sounded like, Sorry! We also put a new electronic choke job on our carb during the re-build. Could have helped as well...
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+1 on what 79 said. You may want to make sure the choke is turning off all the way.
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Originally posted by rman56 rman56 wrote:

Well good point, I dont want to make a simple fix turn into having a bad summer at the lake!


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Well good point, I dont want to make a simple fix turn into having a bad summer at the lake!
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Originally posted by rman56 rman56 wrote:

I never thought of checking the manifold gaskets. I guess that could cause that. I may start with a carb re-build and go from there. Thanks


I would suggest you try a fresh tank of gas before you start messing around with the carb and everything else creating problems. Going in blindly isn't the smartest of approaches for a very minor common complaint first time out after a lay up.

An exhaust leak isn't going to cause this type of problem, you would have to have a huge hole in the manifold blowing directly into the carb for this to be a problem, beside you will hear an exhaust leak and smell an exhaust leak too so unless you hear one or smell one leave it alone. Now if you want to start running in cirlces like a dog does ...... you can.... but I would wait.
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