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    Posted: May-11-2010 at 4:18pm
So I bit the bullet and grabbed a Drysuit...
Its a Bare like the one here
drysuit

Its the only one I could get here at a decent price..$600

I still have to pay for it, so If I donĀ“t use it I can return it.
SO you guys think It will withstand barefooting?
It looks tought
I wanted to BI but having it shipped from us and after taxed price would end the same.

Back to using it what equipment or protection I need to wear under it?

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for 600 bucks i can handle the cold water   
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ice too?
lol
imported equipment here is always double..
expensive sport I have chosen...
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Drysuits aren't near as bad as the water they are protecting you from. I don't barefoot in mine so I can't help you with that part, but I like long underware and fleece in my suit. Something that will wick the moisture away from your body so you don't feel clamy. Take the thin stuff offfirst if it's too hot, that will keep you from feeling the water temp.    I also wear a thin vest on the inside, starts to get a little bulky with a regular one.
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Wear a heater shirt and your BF suit. Have you alrady paid for the suit? What size are you? Were would it ship to. I miight be able to get you a better one cheaper.
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not paid for. I gave it try in my pool...no water entry at all water was very cold...I was with my jeans and shirt yet i felt it..
THe one O picked up is a large and fits quite well.
Shipping is to buenos aires argentina zip 1609...
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let me check shipping from here.
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New barefooting drysuit shipped from U.S. will be @ $500.00 U.S. Let me know and I'll send you all the information.
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Ryan..500 is including shipping cost to argentina? if so from there I have to pay 50% customs tax of fob price and shipping..so that makes 250 extra to the number..total cost would be in the $750...
Number could be lowered a touch If the invoice could be "lowered" and stated half the price of the suit..and that way it can lower the base for the tax calculation....
but in an event of damage while shipping insurance will cover only half of it...
My uncle flew yesterday from SF to argentina...I could have ordered the $300 BI on sale and had it ship to his home for him to bring it, but got lazy and when I was about to do it it was late...

Comming again to the quality..what you think its the major difference between the bare and a barefoot one? are seems better? The bare looks very tough.and is very comfy...

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500 includes shipping, not sure what customs tax is. Can you explain?
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I'm pretty sure when something comes through customs, they "tax" the recipient a certain percentage of the purchase price/value of the imported product. From what Kapla stated, after the suit, say $500 was paid for (including shipping), the approximate import tax would be around $200. Making the total cost $700. He would have to pay the $200 to customs to get his package.

I'm not sure if it has anything to do with a lack of a free trade agreement or not. Forgive me if my understanding was incorrect.
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That's BS!
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Hawktique is correct...
every imported package you get has to go through customs and gets a tax rate..for regular people they apply a flat rate of 50% of the value (fob+shipping) as simple as that...
Dependig on the carrier example ups or fedex they will clear customs for you and pay the taxes..but upon delivery they will ask you to refund those charges that are not included and the shipping cost..when you send it on regular mail..you receive a notice in your house that a package is waiting for you at the international post office, there you have a customs office where they open the goods check you are not introducing any forbiden good, check the invoice and make you pay the tax to clear it out...
Its PIA but thats how it works....


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What if ther invoice said $10 U.S.? Would that work?
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Originally posted by SN206 SN206 wrote:

What if ther invoice said $10 U.S.? Would that work?


I believe it could. If the suit was lost or damaged in shipment, you can only get the valued amount from insurance. It is tough thing to deal with. I'm sure Kapla knows of all the loop holes, and sometimes things get a bit risky with all the customs red tape. They didn't like it at all when they pulled the floor boards on our helicopters (coming back from Iraq in '03) and found a stockpile of AK's and stuff. "How'd that stuff get in there?" "No idea"
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It would be suspicious to see such nice suit and only paid $10, This guys can smell scums as they deal all days with guys trying to fool them,
Something in the 250-300 total (including shiping) might work..but tax would be 125-150 then..so cost is always in the 600 range...


Example..Last year I ordered a set of gator WB boots..paid for them 59 and 80 shipping...got to pick them at the terminal..paid 70 tax....boots end up costing $200..triple of the price you pay...

Another thing about the post office is that all int packages go there so depends on the day and hours..other people is there waiting to clear their things...You are lucky if you do all the paperwork in less than 2hours..I have even waited 4 hours sometimes...
I would do all this to save some serious money $200-300, but to save 50 or get even I really wouldnĀ“t do it..itĀ“s a wasted morning..

So as far as price it will always be in the 500-600 range..so no savings at all..Unless the BARE is a POS and will rip in the first use and the BF is top notch that will last forever and worth the effort of waiting for it 10-15 days and then go and spend the morning in customs I think keeping the bare...
I really appreciate your effort on trying help me figure this out..but I been dealing with this all my life LOL
Only way to get items w/o tax Is flying there and bring them as luggage..
Near future I need to go shopping in the US and visit you guys and spend sometime in the water and in the bar enjoying some cold ones

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hahaha.....did you get to keep them?
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If only I could get an engine as hand luggage..
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Originally posted by storm34 storm34 wrote:

hahaha.....did you get to keep them?


what the boots? still have them but i sent them to a shoe repair shop to fix some seams that ripped ..Gb they looked nice but ended up being not so tougth..
as for the suit I still have it but wondering what to do..winter is here..So i probably keep it..
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...kap, I was talking about the AK's Josh tried to bring back from Iraq
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No we didn't. We got lucky with a slap on the wrist. Had something to do with "we're not here to steal from the Iraq government, this is a liberation campaign, therefore spoils of war does not exist." One of my buddies was able to sneek a mortar tube through, no munitions though. I had to buy my AK the same way everybody else does.
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Originally posted by Hawktique Hawktique wrote:

Originally posted by SN206 SN206 wrote:

What if ther invoice said $10 U.S.? Would that work?


I believe it could. If the suit was lost or damaged in shipment, you can only get the valued amount from insurance. It is tough thing to deal with. I'm sure Kapla knows of all the loop holes, and sometimes things get a bit risky with all the customs red tape. They didn't like it at all when they pulled the floor boards on our helicopters (coming back from Iraq in '03) and found a stockpile of AK's and stuff. "How'd that stuff get in there?" "No idea"
that is correct..

Originally posted by storm34 storm34 wrote:

...kap, I was talking about the AK's Josh tried to bring back from Iraq


i missed that post..
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Originally posted by kapla kapla wrote:

Near future I need to go shopping in the US and visit you guys and spend sometime in the water and in the bar enjoying some cold ones
HERE is the perfect chance......
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Kapla, the Bare drysuit is a piece of garbage and will come apart on you if you try it for barefooting. In fact I think that most retailers warn against using it for barefooting for that reason. I have spoken with Michele and I think she can help you alot with the cost to get you a good barefoot drysuit. Contact here @ 281-395-9751 or 866-576-6408
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In those terms I will give back this suit and get a real one..
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You'll be happier. Try giving Michele a call she understands the customs issues and will try to help you.
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michelle at berefoot central I guess...
I sould be looking for the BI BF suit by mike seipel right?
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till what time can I give a call? now is late?
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You could call within the next hour I would think, if not in the morning. What time is it down there?
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20.50...busy in the phone..odd
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