Last night's speech.

all i can say is when gas spiked, i went and bought a car that gets 35 miles to a gallon and i re-evaluated things in life, i still owned a boat at the time, and was roughly spending 450.00 a month on gas until i got the high mileage car. it went from a luxury to a necessity and from that day on I viewed a car as a tool to get you from point A to Point b...and to do it as cheap as possible in order to afford gas for the boat, that's adapting, but the mindset was changed as everyone quit driving and you couldn't find a good used car in the 4 cylinder range.
the Europeans should chime in here, sht they are driving 3 cylinder diesels and they're cars must hit and mpg standard of 34 while we only need to hit (i believe) 24...a bit wasteful in my eyes and maybe a touch selfish...but such is life.
again, the government can be controlled by our everyday (legal) choices we the consumer make, China will be the leading manufacturer in the world in approximately 1 more year surpassing the US,
somebody has to finance our government which is me and you, in the form of what we call a tax, the money has to come from somewhere and since there are no large manufacturers it has to come from me and you...you need money in surplus, not deficit...more is going out than coming in...im fck pissed, i got a bill for 3544.00 for the road they put out in front of my house...it can be paid or assessed over the next 20 years with interest which when done will be 6500.00 out of pocket...you dont think i sit here and bash the government? i do i do i do...but also i do realize taxes should pay for this, but not if you aint got it

Mr Sutton, Mr Moorfoot, and Mr Autio,

Thanks for sticking up for me there. I greatly apperciate it.

I just like to tell it like it is. Some of the "Left wingers" dont like to hear the truth.

Walt, that's why this discussion is under off topic. You don't want to read it then don't. No one is making you. That's what is so special about this site. We can discuss many things other than boats and have many different opions but the common demoninator of us all is our love for Correct Craft's!

6strings wrote: Skicat, please don't take this personally, but I'd like to suggest that there are more apropriate forums here on the internet for discussing your strong political views. I come here for boating, recreation, knowledge, and general good humor discussions. I'm sorry I started reading this thread.

You would rather bitch than hit the DELETE ..............



You have not been here long enough for us to miss......... GOOD BY

Nautiquehunter wrote: At the law suit over the health care bill the Obama lawyers admitted the forcing citizens to buy health care is realy a TAX and therefore constitutional. When the Bush tax cuts expire they say its NOT raising your taxes just no longer giving you a break. So much for the 250k and above only tax increases. The current increase in the economy is only there because of massive stimulus spending look out when this bubble bursts.

Bull crap! This is all about re-disbuting wealth. Rob the rich and give to the blind. For example, if a small companys or corporation has employees, companies and coporations pay a butt load on your insurance for you to have for you and your family. It will be tons cheaper for small companies and corporations to take the 750 dollar hit per employee than keep you under there insurance. So in addition, you will have to go out and buy and will be forced to buy "Goverment Health Care", or you will be penalized also. Bunch of horse *************** if you ask me.
We will all get screwed when this takes affect, not just the rich but all considered. This bastard is making a "lazy"country and making others, such as his Muslim friends and countries, stronger to take over America. We will go bankrupt soon, if we do not fix the econimcal problems and have a pure "Conservative" way of doing things again.
The rich will eventually get poorer and there will be no more drive to have the "Dream" we always wanted. Bush did alot of dumb things but did some great things too. Kept this country "free", pure tax cuts for "middle class", and kept spending to a limitied. I could go on and on but as we see, Obama and his agenda, whehther it is from tax cuts, fixing a hole, or generating new policies, he gonna lube you up and take it from you and your family..

At the law suit over the health care bill the Obama lawyers admitted the forcing citizens to buy health care is realy a TAX and therefore constitutional. When the Bush tax cuts expire they say its NOT raising your taxes just no longer giving you a break. So much for the 250k and above only tax increases. The current increase in the economy is only there because of massive stimulus spending look out when this bubble bursts.

[QUOTE=eric lavine] omh, people are adaptable, truck sales, Hummer sales slumped, when gas hit 4 bucks a gallon...you adapt,


Yea we adapted, but know things are even rougher. The company I worked for laid me and a bunch others off in March. Well I thought I would find the same pay no probs. Boy, was I wrong..
When someone finally chose to call me, 2 months later in May, the best I could find was 12hr.. Now I have to addapt and can not do anything stupid, no extra trips, stay at the house and drink beer and enjoy the LCD television a little more. Cant go to the lake as much anymore.Things are just tough for everyone, and even Companies know have had to cut back on employees, and turn there focus on how they do business differetnly. But a double recission is not what we need. Get everybody working again, and quite trying to say we are doing excellent job creation, cause all this guy has created is goverment jobs. Boy that is gonna do alot for regular business people.   

Eric, I have to agree with you on one point. We are definately better off than we were back in 2008 when the market tanked and the depression/recession hit all of our industrys. While things are in no way good, they are off of the bottom that we were at.At my job we have hired workers back and are no longer in a big time money losing situation every month.Don't know who the right man is that can take this country and its people back to where we once were. No matter who is in charge the opposition will always be boisterous. When the next election comes we will make another decision and I hope we keep moving forward. We need to get this country back to work and prosperous again.More money in our pockets means more transmission repairs at your shop.

omh, people are adaptable, truck sales, Hummer sales slumped, when gas hit 4 bucks a gallon...you adapt, personally i think gas should be 7.00 bucks a gallon, the demand for oil would decrease and i really think we wouldnt be so waisteful, there is only so much to go around and we depend and defend to ensure the price stays where its at. that 2 bucks a gallon keeps our taxes high because of the paid protection and alliances we have with oil producing countries. we protect and control. everybody answers to somebody no matter how high up the food chain, we protect countries such as Israel and did you ever wonder why?
it seems like there is light at the end of the tunnel and personally i feel things are better than they were 2 years ago

Yet again, he voted present!

eric lavine wrote: it was him or MCcain, and as Bin Laden stated he is the same kinda Moron as Bush, and what happened is exactly what I wanted to happen....make your country go broke just like i did with Russia....btw, they kicked Russia's ass to. If MCcain was the Pres, his biggest adviser would be Bush and neither one of those knuckleheads would do whats best for the country...they started the snowball and threw in a blackman and he is taking the sht for it, Having Obama in there (which I am in no means a big fan of his) merely broke up the Monopoly in Washington. to this day, there is no reason to be in Afghanistan burning up billions, there was no reason to go after Saddam, that country is still in turmoil and will be 10,000 years from now....I really think things were better over there with Saddam in power, he wasn't even a household name until he stepped into Kuwait to control oil, we find excuses to go into other countries to cause turmoil, as with the towers, Bin Laden knew that would pull us into a situation and cause disruption over here. as i said before they tried bringing the towers down in 1993 and Clinton had Bin Laden in his cross hairs and was told to back off. Its not always what we think, it always what were programmed to think, we create hate to justify a situation. I think when all is done and said this oil problem is going to bankrupt BP

BP is done and so is Cameron.. I would have to agree on that..

I happened to read a brief on CNN the other day about Obamas speech which stated that it was written at a 10th (about 9.8) grade level which would probably preclude most Americans from understanding the concept of the speech. As stupid as that sounds, it is in line with what I worked with in a high school math class everyday where everything was written at about a 7.5 vocabulary grade level. The irony for me was that after 35 years in a classroom I never had a father complain to me personally about how hard the work was for their child, mothers were horrible for trying to protect their children from a less than excellent grade, and more than not administration gave in to change the grade. I was never surprised at how we graduated children who could not read after trying to please these mothers who wanted their children to feel good about themselves rather than be educated.

it was him or MCcain, and as Bin Laden stated he is the same kinda Moron as Bush, and what happened is exactly what I wanted to happen....make your country go broke just like i did with Russia....btw, they kicked Russia's ass to.
If MCcain was the Pres, his biggest adviser would be Bush and neither one of those knuckleheads would do whats best for the country...they started the snowball and threw in a blackman and he is taking the sht for it, Having Obama in there (which I am in no means a big fan of his) merely broke up the Monopoly in Washington. to this day, there is no reason to be in Afghanistan burning up billions, there was no reason to go after Saddam, that country is still in turmoil and will be 10,000 years from now....I really think things were better over there with Saddam in power, he wasn't even a household name until he stepped into Kuwait to control oil, we find excuses to go into other countries to cause turmoil, as with the towers, Bin Laden knew that would pull us into a situation and cause disruption over here. as i said before they tried bringing the towers down in 1993 and Clinton had Bin Laden in his cross hairs and was told to back off.
Its not always what we think, it always what were programmed to think, we create hate to justify a situation.
I think when all is done and said this oil problem is going to bankrupt BP

DeepCreekNauti wrote: Next speech he gives take a drink for every time he says any of the below. "Let me be clear" "Comprehensive Reform" "Working Families" "Some may say" "Workers" "I am totally committed" "Make no mistake" "Long before I took office" "Inherited" "Take on big (insert industry)" "Must act..."

I am in for that.. But you are forgetting one... "I am tired"

Next speech he gives take a drink for every time he says any of the below.

"Let me be clear"
"Comprehensive Reform"
"Working Families"
"Some may say"
"Workers"
"I am totally committed"
"Make no mistake"
"Long before I took office"
"Inherited"
"Take on big (insert industry)"
"Must act..."