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    Posted: June-28-2010 at 10:39pm
Just a reminder for all you strong arm dudes. Go easy on those small bolts please, I may be buying your boat somewhere down the line.

I put a new impellar in the purple 93 this weekend, and noticed when I was taking it off that the top part where the bolt for the belt adjustment was cracked. When I took the bolt out it pretty much fell apart. I tried every trick I could think of plus JB weld to put it back together. But the threads on the inside were all but gone. I've never seen one that beat up before and it didn't look like a very old water pump.   But somebody put the mojo on that bolt.

Thank god for the ccfan discount at skidim, $300 bucks " GONE ". Cause some fool thought he was tighten down bolts on a cruise ship.
I know you can get just the housing but nobody keeps them in stock.
And of course I need the boat for the 4th.    But ya'll just remember to save yourself some money and go EASY ON THOSE LITTLE BOLTS.....Cause those little parts are HEAVY on the wallet.
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... I always tighten till it strips, then back off a quarter turn to avoid your dilemma.
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PMC - Helicoils are your friend.... tap out the old hole with the helicoil tap, insert the steel "threads" and reinsert your old bolt. Seems like last time I bought the helicoils and tap it was in the $15 neighborhood. you can usually get the helicoils at your local autoparts store. make sure you know the size of the bolt and the thread guage, helicoils are size specific.

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The casting broke on his...

Do you still have the old one?

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Yep,   I noticed that the housing was broken, but it sounded like it was rigged back together...
Originally posted by pmccook1 pmccook1 wrote:

I tried every trick I could think of plus JB weld to put it back together. But the threads on the inside were all but gone.
   I think that the housing should be replaced as well, but a temporary fix like a helicoil may get you back on the water while you're waitng for the new parts...

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Picture the top of the casing where the bolt goes in to tighten the belt up.

It split across the top. then broke off on both sides. So I have the two top pieces to put together , then put both those sides down.
But when I had it in my hand I noticed that the treads were pretty much gone.   So by the time you put a coil in and if you could find somebody to weld it back and hold,,,, I figure i was better off ordering a new one. Which it will be here Wed.   I'm in Ga and Skidim is in SC which makes for almost overnight delivery on the cheap.

What I was gonna do is order the plain empty front housing for 79 bucks later on and press my old bearings and pully off and reinstall on the new houseing and have a spare for future use. I'm always buying and selling boats and usually run into pump stuff on each one.

My main topic or moral to the story is still ,,,, Be Gentle on those small bolts or it could cost you big time for something simple stupid.
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Small bolt needs small wrench. Keeps me out of the heliccoil aisle.
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I dodged a $200 bullet a few weeks ago. I took the cover off my water pump (johnson crank mount) just to inspect. When putting in back on I twisted the head off one of the screws. I thought to myself, how stupid, I've got to buy a new pump just because of that stupid mistake. I took the pump off and back to the bench. (not a big bolt like a pcm pump but a little 1/8-inch screw, too small for an extractor, I assumed) I looked and noticed there was a small burr on the top of the broken off part still in the pump body. Even if it was big enough to catch a screw driver edge, the screw would probably be jammed in too tight to turn it with so little grip. Lucky me, I was wrong and the broken part spun right out. How lucky was that, a 50-cent screw and I was back in business.
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I've had a few saves similar to that. Just wish I had been that lucky this time around.   Just think how many get tossed in the trash that could be saved. I wish I had time to dig through old boat repair shops to find'em.   Theres a marina here on lake sinclair that I wish I could dig through. Theres one building thats been there since the lake was built. You can stand at the door of it see old parts galore. They even have a old willys jeep thats been used there since the 50's I guess.
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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

   When putting in back on I twisted the head off one of the screws.

Larry,
Maybe you should stay away from the tools. John's learned that - he just hands them to his son who does the actual wrenching!!


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And remember your starter relay studs are copper..... I bought a new starter relay, installed and put a good squeeze on the nut and all of the sudden, no more stud left. Oh well there went 30 bucks. The joys of not paying attention.
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