Stalls when shifting into FWD

Ok, so big thumbs down for N3 at this point.

So I authorized them to put a new carb on it if thats what they thought they needed to do. They're the experts, or so I thought. Call them at 430 (because they close at 5 and had heard nothing) and they say they're out water testing it, come on over it'll be ready when you get here.

So I get there, talk to the tech, he says he couldn't get it to run at all with a brand new carb, so he cleaned up the old one and put it back on and took it out and tweeked it as best he could. He put new plugs in it, a new belt and a new battery because somehow my perfectly functioning battery went bad in their possesion. He then proceeds to tell me that he's not completely sure its fixed because today (3 weeks after the initial drop off) that it sounded like there was a bearing noise when it was trying to die, but it should aleast run as good as when I brought it in.

So at this point its 6pm, I need the boat back because I'm leaving TODAY and I agree to buying a battery a belt and plugs. In turn I get a bill for 560 bucks. I was so mad that point I just paid it, walked out the door and went home. On the way home I started thinking about this.

They sold me a bunch of stuff I didnt neeed when I went in there, I'm now out 560 bucks (dry dock retracted their initial offer to help) my boats not any better than it was....and to top it all off, when i got home and looked at the boat it was compltely covered in black greasy hand prints and looks like hell. I'm 100% unhappy with N3 as at this point they've hosed me for 560 bucks and done nothing but keep me from having my boat until the last possible minute before my trip.

I dealt with Luke and Tim at N3. I told them when I took it in that it wasn't a carb issue, but they spent all they're time trying to fix a problem that was not there. They tried to sell me a carb, but couldn't even get it to run on that carb, and to top it off they trashed my boat and killed my battery. Did Dry Dock pimp me sending me there? I'm just absolutely beside myself right now as I'm ready to leave for a trip and the Correct Craft stealership has not fixed my boat, trashed it and charged me 560 bucks for my inconvinience. I left Luke a message lastnight telling him exactly how I felt, but I'm sure I'll hear nothing back because he has never once called me in this entire process.

Lucas...first off, this sucks, and sorry to hear about it.

2nd off...This is the 2nd time that Chris(79) has offered to personally take time out of his day to help you out...I'm thinking you might want to take him up on his offer. And his rate seems pretty reasonable.

What a maroon, they all clank when they are about to stall. What would he do next, tear apart the engine?
The other carb likely came off some other guys' boat who also wanted it for the weekend. stay clear.

Spoke with Mark at N3. He was apologetic for the poor communication and the dirty boat. He did feel that his 109/hr labor rate was acceptible and the fact that he charged me 3 hours that resulted in nothing more than replacing a battery that they killed, and replacing a set of plugs that I didn't need was appropriate.

I'm sure I'm somehow atleast partially to blame, but I've been a ski nautique nut (grew up on lake james in angola), my entire life and I'm just beside myself with this situation.

Thanks everyone for the input.

your PM might have went into my spam directory and I can not view them on my cell phone or at work so call me at 765-425-5744

chris


p.s. I leave work at 3:00 so i need to hear from you before that.

C-Bass wrote: Pete, Pending any engine tuning issues that might cause this, you sure seem like you're on the right track with the trans. issue causing this. Are there any pressure taps on that transmission that you could throw a gauge on so you could verify that no pressure is getting to the reverse clutch feed?

My feeling is that the cable and carb are out of adjustment a little and I'm going to start there and then move forward, only downside, working in the driveway and no load, Hopefully Eagle creek or another close by pond has a ramp to back the trailer down so we can load the tranny and verify it's working.

well hopefully he calls pretty soon, I can't get to my yahoo account here at work and usually the CCFan mail goes into the spam folder and I can not get to the folder using my cell phone only the inbox and I haven't seen anything.

That and he states he can drive out of it with a little throttle too

79nautique wrote: 765-425-5744 chris p.s. I leave work at 3:00 so i need to hear from you before that.

bump

Ok, got a hold of chris. You guys are great!!

Might wanna have a camera handy and post some pics of the gathering!!!
CCF members meeting to help each other are way cool...

GottaSki wrote: horkn wrote: I sure hope this is something simple, and if it is, why the hell can't the dealer fix it? Don't get us started....

Notice I said "dealer"?

kapla wrote: i´m freezing down here so some guys in sweated t-shirts is a nice turn on for me..

that is just sick in so many ways.


But What I found yesterday was, a loose, cable on the new battery install, a loose spark plug, and several loose carb bolts, and throttle cable adjustment issues as well.

So what I feel was the main issue and I hope I corrected the issue since we didn't water test it, but the cable adjustment being off actuall was pulling it off the idle curcuit and I think there might be some varness on one mixture curcuit, so I made some adjustment to the carb and linkage and hope all is well.

I pointed out a couple things for him to check and adjust once he's on the water so hopefully they no issues on vacation.

Hope his vacation is goin well..

Great job Chris, on going to help him get her running.

Update
Boat ran and did not sink. Not sure the packing nut is exactly right, but its good enough for now, though there is a bit of a story to tell with that. I'll print off a tutorial and set it up again for good measure next time out.

I think the carb, while needing some adjustment and a good cleanup up is fine. I still think theres something lugging the drivetrain in FWD. When it engages is drags the engine down 750 to 1000 rpms causing a need for a 1200-1400 idle. We did this and it worked good enough all week (read not stalling on every engagement).

Thanks to chris for stopping by and giving me the newbie once thru on nautique as I've still got a lot to learn.

Now I got to get caught up on work here.