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verdi1 
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 Topic: OJ Dripless VS Traditional PackingPosted: October-17-2011 at 7:47pm |
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I just wanted to see opinions out there of people who have repacked the shaft to hull seal with traditional packing be it fiber or wax coated(which works beter and how much water loss?) as compared to people who have thrown a little money at the maintenance free/waterless seals (ease of install, water loss, longevity?) look forward to your opinions.
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 7:50pm |
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Gortex "almost dripless" is lot's cheaper!!
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Keeganino
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 7:58pm |
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Save the money for tanks of gas and tranny rebuild! I have not ever heard anything negative about the dripless, but I would have a hard time justifying the cost. I repacked with the traditional waxed packing and My bilge stays nice and dry. I only ever had enough water for the bilge pump to work twice and that was mostly because of people getting in and out of the water.
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TRBenj
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:18pm |
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Ive installed a dripless- I like the idea of having a perfectly dry bilge.
That being said, I only installed the dripless because I found it for $75 and figured we'd already upgraded everything else below the floor, so why not. For just a few dollars, Id go goretex in just about anything else and put the money towards gas. Besides, like Keegan said though, you'll get more water in the bilge if you have wet people getting in or if youre skiing a bunch with it (especially off the boom) than you ever would with a traditional packing. |
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verdi1
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:20pm |
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Is the gortex a packing?
Keegan- when you repacked how exactly did you achieve this waterless connection? I took the old packing out and it was in three different pieces stacked obviously back to back. I wonder if it is better to run one continuous piece that revolves three or so times? |
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kapla
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:20pm |
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I have a regular wax coated seal that I replaced a few months ago..virtually dripless....cost of the packing $5....
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:22pm |
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Also, tranny is out as of Sat. noon and shipped via UPS to Eric today, can't wait to get it back!!
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TRBenj
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:26pm |
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The goretex impregnated packing goes in the original packing gland. Its supposed to be one step closer to dripless than the tradition wax impregnated rope.
Do not wrap the packing around more than once. Use single rings and stagger the joints on each subsequent layer. 3 rings is good, but 4 is better... get as many in there as you can while still getting good thread engagement on the packing nut. |
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verdi1
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Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:46pm |
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The money is not a concern but it sounds like I can get an almost dry hull with the gortex, maybe the savings can towards that 100$ it took to get my tranny over to Eric.
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 3:28pm |
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I'm like Tim I like the dry bilge. I went drip-less in both '85 and the '95.
Love'em no fuss no mess. |
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GottaSki
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 3:47pm |
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I got lucky and have had a dry bilge for 10 years with wax/flax, no adjustments, no heat.
My one stab at luck and its a bilge, yeash |
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 3:50pm |
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Glad you got hooked up with Eric. As Tim stated the packing is supposed to be in individual pieces. If you have not thrown the old packing away yet dont. They will be handy when cutting the new packing strips if you go that route. Might as well repack the rudder port while you are at it. Works the same way as the shaft packing.
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 5:38pm |
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Thanks for the tip, going to go ahead and put in new cutlass bearings as well. Anything else you guys can think of while I am at it?
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Bri892001
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 6:27pm |
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I read a marketing claim somewhere, in a catalog or maybe "Waterski" magazine, that the OJ drip-less seals decrease friction and thus increase performance.
Given that this is marketing material, does anyone think there is any real truth to that? Or is any difference in shaft rotational friction most likely negligible? |
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eric lavine
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 8:19pm |
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so yes the statement is true. I like the dripless, but Gortex works just fine also. easier way to put it, if they were both the same price i would go with the OJ |
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 1:29am |
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Verdi1,
Do you now own Keiths old 79 Mustang? |
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Keeganino
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 3:26am |
Its a SN |
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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Bri892001
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 12:45pm |
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Actually, if someone doesn't have an avatar on their profile, Keith's old boat is the default it automatically goes to.
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 3:00pm |
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Sorry guys, I will try to get a picture up. I seem to be better at blowing tranny's than posting pics to my profile!
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 3:04pm |
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I put in a dripless when replacing the shaft. Works great. Insurance paid for it.
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Keeganino
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 3:06pm |
Fill out the diary section for your boat. When you submit those pics they have to be approved and usually takes a few days. |
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