EU all wet?

Come on dave, First off, for shame on your cynacism in allowing processed food industries to buy a bigger share of a program to provide school lunches to our nations youth. It is a valid opinion to argue whether or not such a program should exist and how and where it should be funded but once it exists and is funded that is not the argument at hand. It is ridiculous to take that tax payer money and skew it away from healthy alternatives and towards those with the best lobby. Even if the republicans are short sighted enough to actually embrace your view that it isn’t worth it for us as a nation to invest in the health and well being of the next generation on a national level that is for them to declare, but this is not that - this is purely them picking winners and in this case picking the frozen and processed food industry over local tomato and potato (and every other) farmers.

Yes it is a minor thing and something congress shouldn’t be bothering with, that is the point. Congress approved using our money for the program and then it goes to a branch of the executive to administer it, that is how our government works, the congress then went back and spent more time on changing how it was administered to pick winners, and they didn’t pick children.

To say that the noise machine is the same for both sides is also just crazy at this point and I no longer have any patience for it as an informed viewpoint. The democrats simply aren’t at the level of hipocrazy the republicans appear to value at this point. Republicans in congress just caused another crash to make a point and continue to try and sabotage the economy at every turn. In theory to make obama look bad but in reality they have now basically given the 2012 election to the democrats.

I always liked being an independent and not being stuck with whomever a single party had to kick out but man the republican party is providing no options at this point, even those whom are not idiots have to suffer those that are to the point that I don’t trust the non idiots simply because they associate with the idiots. I don’t know how we get our country back on schedule without two viable parties… and I dont know how we get back two viable parties when people consider some of this crap media as viable balanced news sources.


The best article I read this week comes from another conservative who has been pushed away from the koolaid table.
http://nymag.com/news/politics/conservatives-david-frum-2011-11/

JoeinNY wrote: River run this year?

We're hoping so; too early to tell though.

OverMyHead wrote: The point is the EU is a fiscal train wreck and we are not far behind

It is indeed. The crisis in Europe is deep...

OverMyHead wrote: and yet our leaders have time to regulate how water is advertised and whether or not tomatos can be considered a vegetable in paste form!

We Belgians still do not have a government. The negotiations (or political games) are going on for 528 days already now!!!
Problem is that we still do not have a budget for 2012 and are therefore in the sights of the speculants. Europe has ordered Belgium to have the budget ready by mid December, but that ain't gonna happen now...
So we are about to step on the same train as Greece and Italy

BuffaloBFN wrote: I owe you a beer sir...especially for the accountability part. I heard a guy say the other day that they had DNA on Cain; sadly most folks choose ignorance. Of course, the alternative to ignorance involves the expenditure of personal effort. BTW-water hydrates me.

I would take that beer, it has been far too long.   As for hydration, that is my way of life but I am a Gatorade guy ... Speaking of gators... River run this year?

Howdy Kristof! Thought you might need a good howdy.   

I didn't do the research that Dave did, but there was an article in the UK Telegraph that was copied over to the Drudge report. In short, bottled water companies are not to promote the idea/fact that water hydrates.

This topic could go another way though; just saw Nigel Farage(did I get the name right?) on the news in front of a parliment/EU group? and wow is he bent. I have to wonder how many of our European friends think he's nutz or right on.

You guys got me completely lost on this topic...
Can someone enlighten me? Since Europe is concerned here...

Now see here Dave...how many times do I have to tell you that facts and/or differing view points have no place in a logical discussion?

Wow Joe

Like nothing ever gets covered...those right wing bastards.



Explain this for all of us.

I looked this up apparently it took a team of 21 scientists over two years to reach this conclusion. So we have a consensus of scientists telling us you can not claim drinking water will improve dehydration which is a shortage of water in the body. Clearly there is something theses scientists are not able to see at a very basic level. If this is the case, how are we then to trust them on something as complex as global warming?

BuffaloBFN wrote: I was poking fun at the EU. They just said basically that water doesn't hydrate.

Lets hope they decide beer does!

I had a feeling

Greg, Ive been watching this show and probably shouldnt be, its all based on facts, but scientists took a picture of the face of a sphinx over in Egypt, they took the negative and made 2 transparency's, they flipped one on to the other and long and behold it was a perfect symetrical match, almost impossible even today, this thing was carved or made 8000 or so years ago,
So did the neanderthals have a soda fountain? im not going to say no