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    Posted: December-22-2011 at 1:06am
On 60 minutes Barack rates HIMSELF the forth best president in US history, behind Johnson, Roosevelt, and Lincoln. that would put him ahead of Reagan (for you conservatives) and Clinton (for you liberals). There have to be a more then a few former presidents rolling over in their graves about now.
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No lack of confidence in his own abilities, thats for sure. He needs to take those rose colored glasses off he wears when he looks in the mirror. The Great Uniter!!
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Not that I disagree that he's definitely not the 4th best president, but the question was specific to legislative and foreign policy accomplishments, not just who was the best president. And it's really a ridiculous question to even have a POTUS answer. Come on, what's he going to say. Anything lower and people will say he's not confident enough to be our leader, anything higher and he's arrogant.

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He has the skills to avoid answering the question, and you know he knew the questions before he agreed to the interview. His reply was pure narcissism. I'll admit he has some legislative accomplishments but not since he lost his super majority, and his foreign policy is anything but clear, he has alienated our allies, and not won over any foes. He started out with a world apology tour, followed Bushes timeline for Iraq, and destabilized several countries in the Arab spring without any clue as to who would end up in power. I would put him bottom four long before the top even in those categories.
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Heres how a humble, but confident President would answer it:

- My team and I are doing the best we can for the country...or
- Well, we will just have to leave that to history to decide.

Not....Yep, I am the fourth right behind Lincoln, FDR, and Johnson.

Did you guys notice how 60 Minutes did not air that part of the interview on the broadcast? It was only on their website.   
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Barrack Obama spent is State legislative term running for US Senate. He spent his US legislative term running for President. He has spent his Presidency running for re-election. Now that's a record of accomplishment!
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And, when ever he was around to take a vote in either the state Senate, or federal Senate, he always voted "present". Now that is LEADERSHIP at its finest!! Way to take a stand Barry!! He is doing the same thing now with the Keystone pipeline. Doesn't have the "guts" to take a stand.

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the problem with Obama was he didnt hang around crooked croanies
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      behind Johnson, Roosevelt, and Lincoln. funny i can picture johnson behind obama
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

the problem with Obama was he didnt hang around crooked croanies


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Just Marxists, terrorists and the pristine innocence of Chicago politics. They tried to sell his senate seat for Petes sake.
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Just Marxists, terrorists and the pristine innocence of Chicago politics. They tried to sell his senate seat for Petes sake.


Dave...You wouldn't be talking about Bill Ayers (killed police officers in terrorist bomb blast, and say's "he wished he'd done even more"), Tony Rezko (currently serving prison time) and Rod Blagojevich (currently serving prison time) would you?

Hmmmm! I think we need to get some new rose colored glasses for some of our friends on the site
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you guys talk about two bit hustlers,we got those here in Cleveland too. not white collar boys who start wars and make you believe we are searching for weapons, what a joke,
what exactly do you label a terrorist? we dont have the greatest history of being god fearing people, we wiped out an entire nation didnt we? I guess that dont count, you guys sugar coat everything
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Originally posted by davidg davidg wrote:

Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Just Marxists, terrorists and the pristine innocence of Chicago politics. They tried to sell his senate seat for Petes sake.


Dave...You wouldn't be talking about Bill Ayers (killed police officers in terrorist bomb blast, and say's "he wished he'd done even more"), Tony Rezko (currently serving prison time) and Rod Blagojevich (currently serving prison time) would you?

Hmmmm! I think we need to get some new rose colored glasses for some of our friends on the site


You left out Jerry Wright and all his contributors who happened to get stimulus money!
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I found this on another forum and I think it sums up the Obama presidency. It will be hard to sugar coat his record for the history books.


Barack Obama's 32 Month Report Card
by Rich Carroll

Mr. Hope and Change wants to create a nation humbled; humiliated, casting-aside capitalism and individual freedoms for one where we the people are government controlled. This would be a system that genuflects mediocrity, steals personal aspiration and opportunity, and punishes those who strive to succeed.

A gallon of regular gasoline the day Obama was inaugurated was $1.79 on average in the U.S. Today that price is $3.59, a 100.6% increase. The number of food stamp recipients has risen since Obama took office from 31,983,716 to 43,200,878, a 35.1% jump. Long term unemployment soared 146.2% during the same 32 month period from 2,600,000 to 6,400,000. Staggering hope and change isn't it?

American citizens living in poverty have risen 9.5% from 39,800,000 to 43,600,000, and the number of unemployed has jumped almost 25% from 11,616,000 to 14,485,000 as of August 31, 2011. The number of unemployed blacks has risen from 12.6% at the end of George Bush's term to 15.8% today, a 25.4% increase, and finally, our national debt is up 34.4% from 10.627 trillion to 14,278 trillion *

Keep these figures in mind as we recount the number of firsts for this presidency:

First President to refuse to show a valid birth certificate.
First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
First President to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the United States .
First President to violate the War Powers Act.
First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
First President to defy a Federal Judges court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
First President to spend a trillion dollars on shovel-ready jobs and later admit there was no such thing as shovel-ready jobs.
First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
First President to terminate Americas ability to put a man in space.
First President to encourage racial discrimination and intimidation at polling places.
First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly speak-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state they are allowed to locate a factory.
First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN)
First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
First President to appoint 45 Czars to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.
First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
First President to coddle American enemies while alienating Americas allies.
First President to publicly bow to Americas enemies while refusing to salute the U.S. Flag.
First President to go on multiple global apology tours.
First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends, paid for by the taxpayer.
First President to refuse to wear the U.S. Flag lapel pin.
First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense.
First President to repeat the Holy Qur'an tells us, and openly admit the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.

Remember that 32 months of Obama White House we the people have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our nation's entire history, as the Obama's plan their next extravagant vacation to the Indonesian Island nation of Bali .

Hope and change anyone ?????????

* sources: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Wall Street Journal, Bureau of Labor Statistics, US Dept of Labor, Standard & Poors/Case-Shiller, Federal Reserve, US Treasury, Heritage Foundation.

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During his campaign he stated over and over again ...." The American people need to elect me so my administration and I can start to clean up the mess"

Well...... what are you waiting for?

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When he was told by a news anchor that the election is people are feed up with your big goverment ideas and polocies. He then told the news media person,"Well if the American people need to see less goverment and regulation they will need to vote differently"!

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right wing propaganda, less government? sounds like you guys want dictatorship
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

the problem with Obama was he didnt hang around crooked croanies



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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

right wing propaganda, less government? sounds like you guys want dictatorship


Eric here is the definition of a dictatorship and totalitarianism.

For some scholars, a dictatorship is a form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed (similar to authoritarianism), while totalitarianism describes a state that regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior of the people. In other words, dictatorship concerns the source of the governing power (where the power comes from) and totalitarianism concerns the scope of the governing power (what is the government).

We set up the three equal branches of government to prevent this. Barrack is by-passing congress and making rulings by executive order. that is a dictatorship. We have democrats regulating our behavior such as which light bulbs we can use, how much profit a business can make, whether we can drill for our own resources, how much carbon we use...that is totalitarianism. Then we have those on the right that believe in individual rights and wish to be left alone. That is freedom.
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

right wing propaganda, less government? sounds like you guys want dictatorship


Eric here is the definition of a dictatorship and totalitarianism.

For some scholars, a dictatorship is a form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed (similar to authoritarianism), while totalitarianism describes a state that regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior of the people. In other words, dictatorship concerns the source of the governing power (where the power comes from) and totalitarianism concerns the scope of the governing power (what is the government).

We set up the three equal branches of government to prevent this. Barrack is by-passing congress and making rulings by executive order. that is a dictatorship. We have democrats regulating our behavior such as which light bulbs we can use, how much profit a business can make, whether we can drill for our own resources, how much carbon we use...that is totalitarianism. Then we have those on the right that believe in individual rights and wish to be left alone. That is freedom.


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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

   We set up the three equal branches of government to prevent this. Barrack is by-passing congress and making rulings by executive order. that is a dictatorship. We have democrats regulating our behavior such as which light bulbs we can use, how much profit a business can make, whether we can drill for our own resources, how much carbon we use...that is totalitarianism. Then we have those on the right that believe in individual rights and wish to be left alone. That is freedom.


Nope, nope, nope!!! You are WRONG Dave! I just heard on the news that Eric Holder-Head of the Obama Justice Regime team has declared that what Obama did was "perfectly legal".

Come on man!! Eric Holder said it was all good. It must be okay then, right??   




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Sure, lots of credibility when you take the back of the guy that appointed you.
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had to re-new, Romney is a true (GOP)er, greedy one percenter,
15% wtf, why do you guys insist on these types running the country, they are purely out and mold the laws to benefit themselves, not me and you...you know i gotta pay a 35% fcn capital gains tax and on top of that a 28% income tax on my recent transaction....im a fcn peasant like you guys, this d*ck wad made 375k just in personal appearnces last year....keep putting them in there because they like guys like yourselves
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fcn offshore accounts.....he has them for a reason
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I'll stick with Obama, your forcing me too..........again
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I see all these signs popping up everywhere, we are the 99%ers
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Romney is living on dividend income. He has already paid taxes on the money he invested to get the dividends....at a MUCH higher rate. He now get's to pay taxes on the money again at a lower rate. Dividend income is only taxed at 15%. So what?? He is just abiding by the tax laws of the land. What do you think most retiree's in this country live on?

Since when is it illegal or wrong to aspire to become wealthy in this country? I read somewhere on this site today that a guy that runs a marine repair center said "profits are good".

So what if the guy has made a ton of money legally? Nobody said a word when the Kennedy's were in power (one of the richest families in the world), or when John Kerry ran for President with all his wife's catsup money. This is all just liberal demagogery.

Stop drinking the Sour Grape flavored Obama Kool-Aid!

What laws has the man broken? It's perfectly legal to have off-shore accounts.

This whole 1% vs. 99% Bull&hit is tearing the country apart. It's called class warfare, and since Obama doesn't have anything else to run on, he just figures he'll tear the country apart and pit "the have's" against "the aspiring to have's". I think its despicable! In fact, there are many income categories in this country. But, we used to all be American's. I thought Obama was going to bring us all together, at least thats what he said in 2008 as a candidate. He has done just the opposite in dividing the country. I remember the phrase...."We're not a red state, we're not a blue state, we're the United States". Well, so much for all that. That went out the window with "Hope and Change".




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