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    Posted: February-24-2012 at 2:53pm
I have a 93 SNCB and am considering wrapping my boat with vinyl.

Currently my boat is red, black and white. I really love the color combo, but my red has faded.

Every spring I buff and wax, but it only seams to last for a few weeks, than it has faded again. Also, to compound my problem, the graphics are peeling off one sied of my boat (I think they have been replaced once). I am not able to find replacement graphics.

I wouldn;t mind changing the graphics, but I am concerened that you will be able to see the outline of the old graphics.

I have had some minor experienced in wet sanding, but am concerened I might burn through the color too deep.

Does anyone have experience with vinyl wrapping, good or bad?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TRBenj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February-24-2012 at 3:08pm
Vinyl wrapping is expensive and damages easy. I would concentrate on restoring your gelcoat instead.

By the sounds of it, youre not buffing properly to remove the dull or oxidized finish. Waxing is really just meant to protect the hull from the elements, but it can provide a little bit of gloss and shine... but it wont provide long lasting results if applied over a dull surface.

I would recommend reading up on how to restore your gel. Lots of good info on this website, with recommended products and tools to achieve a long lasting look.
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When I 1st got mine it was in horrible shape.Tried the buffing route,while it did help it was not the answer,it never lasted.Wet sanding really helped and made the color jump out.I would not compare a 60's boat to yours and I don't think I'd try it on later model but I was down to 220 grit on the lower hull.I followed with 400,600,1000 and 2000. Red no matter if gel or paint was always a color that faded easily until clear coat came along.Try some 1000 on a out of the way spot before you do anything else.
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my black was light gray it was so bad. I hit it with 400 and went up from there. Still looks great a year later.
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If gel is laid too thick, it will crack. I would not expect a boat from the late 60's (once CC had a few years of glass experience) to have a significantly different layer of gel than a modern boat. Ive heard its always been about .030" thick. I wetsanded my '90 down to 320 grit without issue. You need to hit gel hard- its very tough and very thick!
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Just wrapped my 84 Barefoot windshield frame with oracal 975 carbon fiber wrap and looks great. forget removing the windshield and powder coating !!!! Wrap it !!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by msanautique msanautique wrote:

Just wrapped my 84 Barefoot windshield frame with oracal 975 carbon fiber wrap and looks great. forget removing the windshield and powder coating !!!! Wrap it !!!!!!!!!!!

How about some close up pictures?


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I plan on going to wet sanding meathod aswell when my 1986 gets back from the shop. I have no experience in the matter but i have heard the gel is so thick that its tough to really do any damage. I have been told when you are wet sanding and you think you are done, keep sanding.... haha
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I have found that you really only need to worry about corners and edges. Seems the top layer (or bottom layer depending how you look at it) is thinner in those areas.
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Vinyl fades over time and scrapes easily. Are you planning on doing the whole boat or just the stripe? I thought about it for just the stripe on my boat, and doing some crazy print on it but have put that idea on hold. If its the whole boat it probably isnt worth it. Unless you have a friend who is in the business.
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Originally posted by msanautique msanautique wrote:

Just wrapped my 84 Barefoot windshield frame with oracal 975 carbon fiber wrap and looks great. forget removing the windshield and powder coating !!!! Wrap it !!!!!!!!!!!


Did you ever use 3m dinoc for carbon wrapping? I thought about doing my dash with it to cover the faux woodgrain.
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I've detailed cars for years,,
And I would take off the old lettering ( a heat gun or hair drier will help with the lettering)
and all the adhesive Left behind. ( isopropic Achol will help with the adhesive)
Then take a buffing wheel with a wool pad and a gritty
Liquid rubbing compound and buff the area. ( being very careful around
Edges!!!!) then go over everything again with a foam buffing pad
And a 3M product called finess it.
Then wash the residue off. And go over the area you are going to re letter
With isopropic Achol ( to remove any wax )
It takes lots of time makes a mess but will look great when your done!!!!
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Here is Mark's Carbon Fiber Project

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Step back ant take another one. I ned to do something with mine soon.
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i'd also like to see some more pictures of that carbon fiber windshield wrap and how it's done.
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Looks pretty good! interesting alternative.

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I was considering painting my frame teal to match the stripe in my hull and then a light coat of tint. That carbon fiber looks pretty good tho.
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Paint the frame. The carbon wrap isn't original!!!


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no it's not original, But looks much nicer, and if I decide too go back too original, I can remove it easily. The frame on my boat is in perfect shape and original, I wrapped it because I like the look and it's easy too install. I understand the original thing but some times originals boring!!! Just Saying.
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MSA - Looks good, it's your boat...whoop it up!

Frames look great...but it would be great to have a not-so-up-clse pic to get the overall look.....does it sparkle more than original? Have a sheen?

This has inspired me to go crazy too..... I am actually going to replace my exhaust manifold plugs, which had interior square sockets, for ones which have exterior hex heads........ They aren't original but they are too fun to pass up!

Nice job MSA.....
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A friend of mine had his hull wrapped three years ago.
A wrapping company that also does cars did it for him to make publicity for their company.
I must say, it still looks like new after three years of intensive use (he has a waterski school)...

If ever my red midsection would become dull again, I'm really inclined to put a wrap on that section. Because I'm not sure I would go through the wetsanding purgatory again...

And as stated before, if I want to go back to original, just take the wrap off...

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Originally posted by Kristof Kristof wrote:

..If ever my red midsection would become dull again, I'm really inclined to put a wrap on that section. Because I'm not sure I would go through the wetsanding purgatory again...

Kristof,
You had better get your ass over here again for one of the reunions. Then, I can beat on you for suggesting something that's not original!!    


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Kristof,
You had better get your ass over here again for one of the reunions. Then, I can beat on you for suggesting something that's not original!!    


Gee Pete... Really looking forward to that...   

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