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I've been on the lake in all sorts of conditions, You would have to have that one perfect day to do it and then I don't know.
What is the fund raiser your trying to put together? you could just go out and go in a big circle instead of across?
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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:



Wow...Speaking of Gordon Lightfoot...

    



Originally posted by BigAir BigAir wrote:

Ok. I get it. Bad idea. I'll look for a bigger boat.   


All those comments and no one repeated the obvious one..."You're going to need a bigger boat"

With those out of the way...Neat idea and admire your wanting to push the edge a little bit for a good cause, but its sounds like the risks might be a bit high. Loops around a lake lacks impact, but what about a river? Is there a river near by that has a 50-ish mile stretch you could do? (kind of lke those barefoot races Tull does)
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You could run an express cruiser as the lead boat. Drop in behind and run in his wake. White knuckle ride and generous pucker factor the whole way.
And then there is the gas bill for both boats!
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One thing you have not mentioned. is how were you planning on getting your boat back to to the Wisconsin side? BTW, I still feel your idea is preaty "off the wall"


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John! very cool stories. thx for sharing.
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At least use a Barefoot Nautique, and put everybody in drysuits, and follow that large list of safety stuff.


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Originally posted by jimsport93 jimsport93 wrote:

You could run an express cruiser as the lead boat. Drop in behind and run in his wake. White knuckle ride and generous pucker factor the whole way.
And then there is the gas bill for both boats!


I am not to sound like a smart also, but in 4-6 footers, which can come up quite quickly and sometimes unexpectedly, following another boat would provide no significant benefit. The difference between crest and trough is 8-12'. Boats like my 15 footer and much larger disappear in the trough and suddenly appear overhead perched on a crest 12' above you. Your 40' cruiser can be as insignificant as a feather on the surface. I don't believe your problem is size, but boat design. You need a lot of freeboard, major pumping capacity, the ability to keep the bow up, good weather, and experience. I wouldn't try it in an inboard ski boat. As you can see from the photo of my 15' making a speed pass on my friends boat, it is very small, however It is well suited for the task.
Years ago, my brothers yacht club used to organize a trip to New Orleans from Illinois staying in waterfront motels every night. A number of ski boats made that trip, his not included. A trip like that sounds like a better adventure for you and a good inland cruising boat.
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JOhn....I was joking! Did not really expect anyone to take me seriously on that idea. One crazy idea deserves another
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There are many casinos on the Mississippi River - could you foil from one to another? Get them to chip in $ from the publicity it will create. They would probably promote it for you, as they are always tryng to improve their public image.
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Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:

this post also made me think of gordon lightfoot... I


Great minds think alike, huh Joe!
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

I'm not sure, but if you want to hear a funny bit search Mischke Gordon Lightfoot interview and find the audio. If someone knows how to put it on here that would be great. He interviews Gordon (who was not clued in before the interview)about the wreck of the Edmond Fitz by singing each question to the tune of the song. Lightfoot lets it go on forever.


I NEVER want to hear that song again. The marina on my chain is Greers Pier, it is owned by Greer. His full name is Edmond Greer Fitzgerald, although no one calls him that. The ship was named after his grandfather. Seems like every time they have live music at Greers Lower Unit Tiki Bar (the cool boat hang out on the chain) the band feels compelled to sing that song. AAGHHH, I just can't take it any more!
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I know, after that post yesterday it was stuck in my head all morning. Cool adventures on the big lake John.
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Hopefully my bro will see this and comment...and I am sure he has pictures...

Back in the day (early 70's) our ski club skied from Cleveland out tp Pele island in Lake Erie. I believe that is a distance of over 25 miles but I am sure Bill will know. I was not involved but Bill was.

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One of my buddies date backed out on him so he calls me up and says he has an extra ticket at our towns theater I say sure I'll go? Didn't even ask who it was playing? Got there and It was Gordon I only new that one song I think I fell asleep after that
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Back in the late 60s we had a standing challenge for bragging rights for anyone who could ski from my friends cottage in Gill's Rock, Door County Wisconsin to Washington Island, about 10 miles. No one ever made it. We even tried behind their old wood cabin cruiser to try to flatten the chop. It wasn't enough help.
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Here's what Larry was referring to, I had the same thought. John, no disrespect to your late friend, just an interesting coincidence that in a thread that talks about Lightfoot there is quite a resemblence.

Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Originally posted by john b john b wrote:



Wow...Speaking of Gordon Lightfoot...

    


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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

Hopefully my bro will see this and comment...and I am sure he has pictures...

Back in the day (early 70's) our ski club skied from Cleveland out tp Pele island in Lake Erie. I believe that is a distance of over 25 miles but I am sure Bill will know. I was not involved but Bill was.

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    I've been watching this post but don't have the newspaper article, pictures, [facts!] at hand so I was reluctant to post. I believe my mother-in-law has them so I may try to get them. I believe it was even before my time in the Club [maybe mid 60's], definitely before CC's, and done on such a nice day that they skied back also!

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I don't doubt that it has been done, and that most likely many on this site could do it today. Back when we were trying the 10 mile run to Washington Island we were 12-16 years old. Backthen, before my injuries, I was an average slalom skier, nothing like the videos of members on this site. Although I was a distance runner then and in good shape, my lower back would always cramp up and I would give up. Sometimes the driver of our 16' tow would get tired of the pounding and slow to an agonizing slow speed.
Sometimes I go up to Island Lake and watch the Skiing Skeeters practice. Skiing and boarding are such graceful sports to watch when they are done well. Barefootin, not so graceful, just strength, guts, and courage! I love to watch it too.
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Here's what it looks and sounds like California Style in the Pacific Ocean

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Those guys must be some tired SOBs when that is over. Will not be able to walk straight for a week!
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     I don't believe your idea is necessarily that far fetched although as others have pointed out it would take much planning and organization. I know nothing about Lake Michigan but Lake Erie can kick up in a hurry and get very treacherous.
     Back on October 1, 1967 we had two slalom skiers ski from the E. 9th St pier in Cleveland across the 50+ miles to Rondeau Point lighthouse in Canada and then switch drivers/skiers for the return trip. Both boats were outboards and good old Cypress Garden skies the ride of choice. With the forty-five year improvement in boats and equipment it would be far less of a challenge these days.





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Cool pictures! The tri-hull probably had a decent ride when it wasn't sneezing spray forward onto the driver, and the wood lapstrake was a bit softer than glass, but in 4 footers that had to be an adventure.
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50 miles on a ski! WOW! That is amazing. Does anyone keep in touch with any of the skiers?
That first boat looks like an Evinrude Sportsman. What a cool boat! I still see one every now and then. In a way they are so hideous that you can't help loving them, just like the old I/O Hydrodynes.
What a trip, thanks for sharing.
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First that old tri-hull is cool. And I don't usually have anything nice to say about tri-hulls.

I would say either of those old boats are a better design for big water than a modern ski boat.
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My brother-in-law bought a lake house on Okauchee Lake in Wisconsin about 15 years ago. The boathouse on the property had an old Evinrude Sportsman sitting in it that came as part of the deal....in like-new condition.

I believe it had a Buick V-6 in it. I took it out a few times, but, it was a bugger to keep going. Always had issues with the tilt/trim. He sold it a couple of years back to some guy who just loved those old Johnson/Evinrude tri-hulls.

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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

50 miles on a ski! WOW! That is amazing. Does anyone keep in touch with any of the skiers?
That first boat looks like an Evinrude Sportsman. What a cool boat! I still see one every now and then. In a way they are so hideous that you can't help loving them, just like the old I/O Hydrodynes.
What a trip, thanks for sharing.
All this talk about Great Lakes boating is really tugging at my sentimental side, and my decision to go with the Mustang. I had such great times on the big water.


    None associated with the club any longer although I still talk to Bill Herbert [guy quoted in article/tall guy in pics]. He moved to Colorado decades ago and still today [in his late 60's] can run 28' off at 36 mph, great snow skier, and recently became a competitive windsurfer. He also has the State issued permit for the medicinal use of pot. Not sure of the connection. lol
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[QUOTE=GlassSeeker] Here's what it looks and sounds like California Style in the Pacific Ocean

OMG I've been living under a rock never herd of this before and its a race? wow

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63 years Doc, all kinds and sizes of boats and they go up to about 80mph towing skiers, one of the biggest waterski races in the world.

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You got it Tim - I remember Greg saying the battery was low and the ride was good b/c it charged the battery
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I would look to the other Wisconsin "Coast", pick any pool on the Mississippi, go from one dam to the next and back. Definitely challenging water (on a weekend), and a heck of a lot safer.

Mdvalant, what is the trip from Dubuque to Bellevue, that has to be at least 25 miles maybe even 30 miles.
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