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You're welcome. Hope it helped.

I updated the IACV line with the Autozone PN, the Napa one is there too.
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IACV PN TV-206 at autozone $55 and close to the lake if needed. I like having theses PNs so I can possibly save a wekend. Thanks for the spreadsheet
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Hot loping (rolling idle) problem fixed with Idle Speed Control Valve:
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24848&title=gt40-engine-loping

Part found on Rock Auto:
IACV PN: e9se9f715eb (off the original valve)
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=945342
$55.79 + shipping

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Cool, thanks
I gave that its own column; full ignition tuneup. Goes to show that it helps to check the simple stuff first.
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Specifics:

1999 GT-40 EFI. 671 hours. Well maintained since new but never tuned up.

Symptom:

Lumpy idle. Clear raw fuel smell at the exhaust when idling. Obvious miss/skip from idle speed up to around 2100RPM. Occasional miss at cruise speeds if you listen carefully.

Solution:

Replace distributor cap and rotor. The original cap and rotor were clearly worn and pitted. The boat ran great after this. $44.

Also:

New plug wires, new spark plugs, new fuel filter and raw water impeller. Might as well do it all. The boat hasn't run this smooth in years. Total cost was $200 and it took about an hour to replace everything.
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Intermitant no start


Sometimes a single click and no start-> faulty starter relay

found relay at advance auto. i believe it was off of a 60's or 70's dodge muscle car   
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Awesome! Thanks!
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Originally posted by 1994nautique 1994nautique wrote:

Can you tell me where the anti siphon valve is located? My 94 does the same stalling out every now and then when pulling up a skier. It acts like it floods out so I put it in neutral and start it with the throttle wide open. Then I can usually pull the skier up. Thanks!


There's a good picture of it in this thread:
http://www.nautiqueowner.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23090&PID=289854&title=anti-siphon-valve
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Can you tell me where the anti siphon valve is located? My 94 does the same stalling out every now and then when pulling up a skier. It acts like it floods out so I put it in neutral and start it with the throttle wide open. Then I can usually pull the skier up. Thanks!
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Water needing to be drained from Fuel Control Cell caused no start condition here:
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26185&PID=337102#337102
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^^ Updated Spreadsheet

I updated for the injectors and relays. I figure the intake manifold is more general mechanical. Thanks for the input.
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1998 Model GT40- Victim of neglect.
Problem 1: Boat had sat for a while. Would not start at all with proper fuel pressure, spark, and compression, but would run on fuel poured into the intake.
Solution: Replaced all injectors, they were completely plugged. You can pick them up for far below retail on ebay. They are 26lbs blue top injectors. Another good precaution would be to ensure that your fuel rail is clean and that all filters are clean and functioning to avoid the same problem again in the future.

Problem 2: No power to either of the fuel pumps.
Solution: The fuel pump relay (There are two- Ignition and Fuel) located on the rear on the engine had been damaged by moisture. Both ignition and fuel relays are interchangeable and cost about $20 a piece depending on where you purchase them.

Problem 3: Leaking water from around the base of the intake manifold (visible from exterior of engine while being run).
Solution: Removed the intake manifold. The four corners of the intake manifold must be set in silicon (we used high temp permatex) to prevent leakage. You shouldn't have to worry about this unless you have jostled around, or removed the manifold.
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New ECM fixed rough running, hesitation, little now power as documented here: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25775&PN=1&title=99-sn-gt40-fuel-supply

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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

^^Did you replace the injectors?


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^^Did you replace the injectors?
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Thanks again Joel. I updated the spreadsheet with a column containing a simplified description or the symptoms and added a row for Oil Pressure switch.

The sheet is always the same link, I just update the same one.
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Symptoms:

Check Engine light starts blinking intermittently at low RPM but goes away when RPM increases. After a while, check engine stays on and engine will go into limp mode at anything over 2700 RPM but work perfectly fine up to limp mode RPM. Oil pressure and water temp gauges reading normally.

Solution:

Notice the oil leaking out of the oil pressure switch, which is above the oil filter on a T'ed fitting shared with the oil pressure sensor sender. Replace oil pressure switch.

VACATION SAVING SHORT TERM TIP: Get a 1/4" brass plug from the hardware store and replace the switch with this plug. Then order the pressure switch and replace it when you can. With sensor wire detached, the incomplete circuit will turn off the check engine light.

The same or similar symptoms could be tied to failing water temp warning switch, which resides in a boss on the circulation pump.
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Thanks Joel

I updated Spreadsheet
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Syptoms:

Fuel Pressure pump 15A breaker pops a few seconds after motor starts. Otherwise fuel pumps sound fine and there are no other symptoms indicating anything would be wrong.

Solution:

Low pressure pump in partial state of failure, drawing too many amps. Replace LPP.
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The "IAP" idle motor is 2-1944, the MAP sensor is 2-19002 at NAPA.
Found this on a search
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Yes the fuel pump relay and EEC relay are the same. They are a Hella unit I have been trying to get my local Hella agent to source them. I dont think he is trying that hard a bit of Internet trolling came up with this pretty quick.

The Hella part # is 4RD 960 388-31.
The US Hella number is 87412.
PCM part # is R130011

You can also purchase a ECHLIN equivalent at NAPA pt # AR174 for $10.97

Skidim also stocks themGT40 Relays
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