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    Posted: April-26-2012 at 5:15pm
I'm not sure if I have the manual of not, but wondered what type of filter to get and type of oil to get. Im guessing, you drain the oil and then replace filter, anything different on a boat, first time to do so since owning it.
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If you don't have the manual, the PCM engine manual is in the reference section however, the oil change is pretty simple. The only thing you really need to know is to use a oil with a high ZDDP content for your flat tappet engine and a good filter. Many here run Valvolene VR1 off road since it's got the ZDDP needed. Good filters include Napa Gold or Wix (actually the same filter). Stay away from the Fram filter! Seroiusly!


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Awesome, drain plug at the bottom Im guessing, wonder if there is a hose to help with dainage. Ill use that VR1 and the Napa Gold. I wonder how much to put into it, I guess add and check, add and check
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You should have the hose that will go through the garboard drain. If not, then the best way is to suck it out with a vacuum extractor.

BTW, the 20-50 weight is what most go for.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

garboard drain.


I just learned something; been calling it a bilge drain.   
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Maybe we need to start a Petetionary?
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Originally posted by Morfoot Morfoot wrote:

Maybe we need to start a Petetionary?


What fer? And I think you spilled it wrong.
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If it doesn't have the hose set up get yourself one of these.


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The term is used more with the wood boat group but still applies. It's next to the keel!

A garboard is: "The first range or strake of planks laid next to a ship's keel."


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A related question: what about Castrol GTX oil? ZDDP OK? I normally use VR1, but happen to have a few quarts of GTX laying around so would like to use it. Yay or nay?
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Got a lawnmower? That is where I use all of my odd oil up.

I looking for an opportunity to use a new word, btw.

Maybe you can store the extra Castrol in your lazarette?

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

You should have the hose that will go through the garboard drain. If not, then the best way is to suck it out with a vacuum extractor.

BTW, the 20-50 weight is what most go for.


Pete, what's the reasoning behind the 20-50? Why so thick?
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


BTW, the 20-50 weight is what most go for.


Pete, what's the reasoning behind the 20-50? Why so thick?

The viscosity is not "thick". Keep in mind it's the lower number of a mutiweight that is the actual viscosity. The higher number is what the oil viscosity acts like at the engine operating temperature.

I believe the manual calls for straight 40 under some operating conditions.

What are you using?


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I didn't see 'garboard' on that list.

Times do change Pete. Abeam means butterslide now, but only if the entity off of the boat is in contact with the water's surface.

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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

I didn't see 'garboard' on that list.
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I didn't ether. It was the first word I looked for too. When I googled for the list, plenty comes up.

You'll never guess who uses the "garboard" term all the time now since he's gotten into the wood boats!


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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

I didn't see 'garboard' on that list.
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I didn't ether. It was the first word I looked for too. When I googled for the list, plenty comes up.


Okay, I'll refer back to my original statement and say we need to start a Petetionary.... here's the second entry.

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You'll never guess who uses the "garboard" term all the time now since he's gotten into the wood boats!


I bet I would.
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a Petetionary


I think I get it now. You could only have 1 copy though...

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by FUN-9C1 FUN-9C1 wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


BTW, the 20-50 weight is what most go for.


Pete, what's the reasoning behind the 20-50? Why so thick?

The viscosity is not "thick". Keep in mind it's the lower number of a mutiweight that is the actual viscosity. The higher number is what the oil viscosity acts like at the engine operating temperature.

I believe the manual calls for straight 40 under some operating conditions.

What are you using?


I use 5-30. I was just using the word "thick" as a layman's term, as a higher viscosity is "thicker" at any given temperature.
My manual calls for 40W for 90 and above which is rare here in NH. Calls for 30W for 0° to 90°. My feeling is I want the lowest viscosity I can get for the "cold" viscosity (the "lower" number) since even 0W cold is "thicker" than any hot motor oil. Ideally the oil would be as "thin" cold as it is hot, but that hasn't been invented yet. Outside temp doesn't mean squat to the "hot" (higher) number since once the motor is hot, the oil is basically engine temp which is not affected by outside temperature.
Go for the recommended viscosity for the "higher" number and the lowest available on the "cold" number.
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Thanks guys mission complete, went with the wix and vr 1
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