Obama's Amnesty Move!!

What John, you think they pulled up roots because taxes became to low and the government employees were not getting enough benefits?

Walker:
No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts! IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!

john b wrote: ononewheel wrote: OK OOW, I have seen that one before, but it is still funny every time I see it. BTW, I am very jealous. I saw your name on the GL mini. I so wanted to go, but we invited some guests up to the cottage last winter, and they chose that week. I hope to be able to get to one sometime this year, maybe out east. I would like to caress some fine vintage FRP while enjoying tubesteak and iced tea.

Well if I am on the list, there is a mistake. Ill head over there and see for myself.

I want to go in the worst way, and ironically I was checking the thread out tonight with my wife and I almost was able to commit, but at this point I am not able to. Commit that is.

If we are able to go, it would be a day trip only. I am headed to what I think is my last "pro" trip to Vegas on the 10th, returning on the 15th, and as of late, the trips take alot of energy.

ononewheel wrote: Dave, Your right about being a state issue. In a perfect example But, the states are not doing what needs to be done. They can talk in circles, but cost still go up, and we know why too.

Yes it is a states issue, period. Inactivity does not change that. Costs are rising now and it is because of Obama tax. We are supposed to make it better. There is no history to support that making it a Fed program has any hope of accomplishing that.

Guys......Back on the GE move issue, that is an old story. I remember hearing about that announcement at least a year ago, mmaybe more. They are only moving the HQ of the X-Ray tubes overseas. They have long had operations in China, India, and France. Only high end specialty tubes were being produced over here. So, all in all, the issue of the X-Ray division moving is a tempest in a teapot.

Now, if they (GE) had announced they were moving GE Healthcare out of Milwaukee (Waukesha), that would be a REAL story. That is the BIG division that makes all the CT and PET scanners. The X-Ray tube division supplies the tubes that go in the scanners, as well as tubes in good old fashioned X-ray machines. So, this move has nothing to do with the whole Walker thing. HOwever, I do admit that it does look very hypocritical on Immelt's (and Obama's) part moving jobs out of the country period when he is Obama's "jobs czar". That's a laugher!

I still love the tv clip when Immelt and Obama all got a good chuckle over the issue of "shovel ready jobs not being that shovel ready"....HA HA HA HA!

However, we do live a global world, and sometimes, jobs and HQ's are going to be moved. It's not like they moved out of Wisconsin to go to South Carolina or Indiana, which are right to work states.

In fact, I had read that several companies that were contemplating moves to, or expansion in Wisconsin wrote it in to their contracts that if Walker lost, the contracts would be null and void, and they would not end up coming to Wisconsin.

So, all in all, Walker has had a very positive influence in Wisconsin, and has got things going in the right direction. What he did will be a trend across the country. Look at what law makers in liberal southern California recently did to reverse public worker benefits because they just weren't sustainable over the long haul. Also, didn't Stockton, California just declare bankruptcy because public worker pensions and healthcare costs were just too high, and unsustainable?

Don't even get me going on Illinois. We have $83 Billion in unfunded public worker pension liability. Talk about drowning in debt.

You guys are so ready to bash you don't read. The guy Obama made the "Job Czar" is the one responsible for moving these jobs and funds to China. A real productive American job creating move making the guy in charge of creating jobs the one moving them out.

john b wrote: Remember, Immelt's fiduciary responsibility is to his shareholders.

He better get his arse in gear then. GE stock just languishes around $20. I am suprised he has been able to survive as long as he has as CEO.

One year ago, GE was at around 19.00. Today it is 20.50. So, it all depends on when you bought it. You could have bougth any stock three at the rock bottom when the market knew Obama was about to get in office, and looked like a hero now. Just depends when you buy. In my opinion, GE stock is a big slug! But, like you say, it is a big fat company, and they don't move like smaller nimble companies like Apple, or others that have extremely HOT products.

Also, I think the building in question is not one of the facilities in Waukesha, but rather the facility on Electric Ave. over by Miller Park in Milwaukee. That is an old, old building. It will remain there and fully staffed. In fact, they just rebuilt parts of it.   

America is a very robust economy. It will always come back, and the less government meddling with it, the better. Just imagine what it will do when Romney gets elected.

OverMyHead wrote: ononewheel wrote: Whew, yeah it is his fault. If he is responsible for creating the jobs, he can be accountable for the ones he allows to leave. Just another example of being blind to the truth. By the way, GE is not the only example of jobs draining from this fine state. So many more have left and many more are planning the move. You can blame walker for them leaving the state, but you have to blame Obama just the same for them leaving the country. If he is responsible for creating the jobs, he can be accountable for the ones he allows to leave.

Yep, there are a few issues I do not stand by Obama on, and this is one of them.   I have said that on this forum since I joined.

Walkers record, besides the crap davidg posts about Wisconsin moving in the right direction,   is far from pretty, and is a far cry from Obamas record and simply the truth as cited by everybody except those on the right. You chose Walker and Regan, I'll take Obama and his more progressive side.


I'm out on this thread. What a waste of too much time, even after pages upon pages of you and your like spewing inaccurate information, it still continues, on and on. Nice. Was fun at first but has turned into something so non-productive I am ashamed to admit I was here.

No hard feelings, but I'll be back when it takes a more positive progressive tune geared towards solutions, not blame.

Must be a Wisconsin thing! This is reminiscent of the 14 Wisconsin senators. They didn't like what was happening in government when Walker was trying to reform the situation in that state, so they packed up their marbles and fled across the state line into Illinois and refused to participate in the process. I bet we can find OOW at the bar at the Holiday in Rockford, IL

Get back in here OOW! I can't believe you are so closed minded you don't want to hear all points of view. I thought that was a hallmark of progressives.

Diversity as opposed to what? Intolerance? Maybe the Aryan Nation is the option you prefer? I had suspected this, but had avoided the overtones.
I too have spent way to much time here. I have had better arguments with a bot. 6-10 stock answers repeated endlessly without a point.
I hope you all retire happy, healthy, and wealthy in your water ski paradise on the lake, and you don't have to put up with any diversity in your neighborhood. In my opinion, lack of diversity = inbreeding. Good luck with that my friends.
I will be thinking of you while I enjoy my retirement, ok, that's a lie, I really won't think of you at all.
Toodles

Here is a little excerpt about how our teachers on the left demonstrate tolerance for diversity of thought.This is not FOX, but an AP story. One would hope that the main focus of a teachers convention might be teaching. The only way to avoid having our children indoctrinated by this group is to put them in a private school and pay for their education twice. What happened to it being about the children? Now its just about politics.This is really sad.

WASHINGTON (AP) — It had all the trappings of a re-election rally: thousands packing a convention center, Barack Obama T-shirts, videos celebrating the health care law, and a wall-size banner with encouraging messages to the incumbent president.

"You are our knight in shining armor — Sarah C., Norman, Okla.," read one inscription.

But this Obama love fest in Washington was not a campaign event. The nearly 9,000 gathered were teachers in town for the National Education Association's weeklong annual convention.


For the Republican teachers in attendance, the digs at their political views were impossible to overlook.

"What I don't like is the harassment going on for people to be an 'EFO' — an educator for Obama," said Maureen van Wagner, a special education teacher from Anchorage, Alaska.

In interviews with The Associated Press, roughly a dozen teachers who identified themselves as Republicans said they felt pressure from union leaders and the rank-and-file to support Obama's re-election — and felt marginalized when they wouldn't. Some interviewed said they were so worried about retribution from their colleagues that they wouldn't provide their names for publication.

National unions such as the NEA — it's the largest teachers union in the U.S. — have long been stalwart supporters of Democratic candidates, and to be effective, they must speak with a unified voice. But teachers, like other professional groups, are not monolithic in their political views, prompting inevitable tensions when the union mobilizes its political machine.

NEA leaders have been urging members to hold house parties to educate their friends about why Obama, who addressed the convention Thursday by telephone to thank teachers for their support, deserves a second term. So it wasn't really a surprise that the union showed its support for Obama so overtly at the convention. After all, 72 percent of delegates at last year's NEA convention voted to endorse Obama for re-election — the earliest the group has ever endorsed in a presidential election cycle.

But what did take Republican teachers off guard was the criticism they received for expressing support for Mitt Romney.

A Republican teacher speaking at the convention was booed for doing just that. The incident prompted NEA President Dennis Van Roekel to intervene, saying that everyone had the right to speak. And when the union invited delegates to the Democratic National Convention in September to a special meeting, no such invitations went out to delegates to the GOP convention until a Republican teacher complained to Van Roekel — an error the union said resulted from a missed newsletter deadline.


Then there were the T-shirts. Some Republicans said they were presented with NEA T-shirts featuring Obama's name — and that it felt like being forced to choose between their profession and their politics.

"I'm not here representing myself, I'm here representing other teachers," said Chris Cvijetic, a first-grade teacher and Republican from Palm Springs, Calif. "That's the only way I can get through the day."

Unions Claim Immigrants Exploit 'Dreamer' Policy


In a startling allegation, the president of the union representing Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers claimed illegal immigrants are "taking advantage" of a new directive allowing some undocumented residents who came to the U.S. as children to stay in the country. Union boss Chris Crane said the policy ends up allowing illegal immigrants to avoid detention without any proof -- particularly so-called "dreamers," or those illegal immigrants who would benefit under the "DREAM Act" proposal, which Congress has not passed but the administration has partially implemented.



I never saw this coming.

And yet three of our Wisconsin suppliers claim they can’t meet our increased demand due to the lack of available skilled workers? If you can weld or run any sort of machining center you would have a job in Wisconsin within days.