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    Posted: October-08-2012 at 11:55pm
When pulling my empty trailer for the 176 it bounces. Shakes the truck.

Any ideas?

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For what it may be worth. many times I've towed the trailer for my Century empty behind our Honda Pilot and it always rode just fine. Recently towed it empty behind our Ford Ranger Edge V6 and it bounced around terribly. Rather than over-analyzing it, I just decided to not use the ranger, but have wondered why the difference might occur........
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

For what it may be worth. many times I've towed the trailer for my Century empty behind our Honda Pilot and it always rode just fine. Recently towed it empty behind our Ford Ranger Edge V6 and it bounced around terribly. Rather than over-analyzing it, I just decided to not use the ranger, but have wondered why the difference might occur........


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I think it's normal to shake and bounce when your getting up to speed with an empty trailer. My brand new Ramlin does it. I think it has to do with running 60+ pounds in each tire with little weight on them. If it does it excessively when your getting up to speed or if it does it at all when at cruising speed you probably have a bad tire.
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Both my 79 SN trailer and my dads dual axel road king trailer for his 22foot Boston whaler bounce when unloaded. They tend to be very bounce without a couple 1000 pound boat missing.
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

For what it may be worth. many times I've towed the trailer for my Century empty behind our Honda Pilot and it always rode just fine. Recently towed it empty behind our Ford Ranger Edge V6 and it bounced around terribly. Rather than over-analyzing it, I just decided to not use the ranger, but have wondered why the difference might occur........

Do you tow the Century with a Honda Pilot? My friend towed my willys on an aluminum trailer for me, it made it about 350 miles of a 400 mile trip before the trans blew. It was still under warranty though so no real harm. He has since sold it.
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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

For what it may be worth. many times I've towed the trailer for my Century empty behind our Honda Pilot and it always rode just fine. Recently towed it empty behind our Ford Ranger Edge V6 and it bounced around terribly. Rather than over-analyzing it, I just decided to not use the ranger, but have wondered why the difference might occur........

Do you tow the Century with a Honda Pilot? My friend towed my willys on an aluminum trailer for me, it made it about 350 miles of a 400 mile trip before the trans blew. It was still under warranty though so no real harm. He has since sold it.


Yes. The AWD Pilot has 4500 lb. towing capacity and tows both my boats with relative ease.
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

For what it may be worth. many times I've towed the trailer for my Century empty behind our Honda Pilot and it always rode just fine. Recently towed it empty behind our Ford Ranger Edge V6 and it bounced around terribly. Rather than over-analyzing it, I just decided to not use the ranger, but have wondered why the difference might occur........

Are the ball heights different between the two vehicles? The level of the trailer frame may make the difference?


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

For what it may be worth. many times I've towed the trailer for my Century empty behind our Honda Pilot and it always rode just fine. Recently towed it empty behind our Ford Ranger Edge V6 and it bounced around terribly. Rather than over-analyzing it, I just decided to not use the ranger, but have wondered why the difference might occur........

Are the ball heights different between the two vehicles? The level of the trailer frame may make the difference?


Me and Reidp were swaping empty trailer towing stories just yesterday yesterday. Both of us have experienced shaking apart empty trailers on long trips, guide poles can break, bunks shake loose, etc.   Perhaps lowering the air pressure would be a resonable solution to implement. Until someone proves that out.. be careful pulling a trailer long distances, I would personally consider running a strap between the guide poles if you are going a real long ways.
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When Marty and I drove back from the boatdr's (LA) with the Skylarks new #2 trailer it bounced at anything over 65mph so I'm convinced speed adds to the problem. I'd think lowering the air pressure in the tires would help.
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I've had it happen with several trailers and wondered if the tires could be out of round due to sitting on them without moving for entended periods of time. Lower air pressure sounds kike a good idea.
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Just like driving around an empty 1 ton truck, empty is not what the tires and springs are made for. take some air out it helps.
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Although every time I have bought trailer tires I have been told that balancing them is unnecessary, I always have mine balanced. I have found that it makes a difference when the trailer is loaded, judging by the vibration that is visible on parts like guide posts and fenders, but it can really make a difference when the trailer is empty. It doesn't cure the bouncing after a big bump, but it eliminates the violent shaking at speed. If you have ever ridden in a car with bad shocks and an out of balance wheel you know what I mean. Most trailers don't have the benefit of shocks.
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I'll be driving 180 miles on the highway with an empty dual axle trailer on Friday. Hopefully the extra weight of this trailer will keep it from bouncing. I may air down a bit and fill the tires once I reach my destination.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

For what it may be worth. many times I've towed the trailer for my Century empty behind our Honda Pilot and it always rode just fine. Recently towed it empty behind our Ford Ranger Edge V6 and it bounced around terribly. Rather than over-analyzing it, I just decided to not use the ranger, but have wondered why the difference might occur........

Are the ball heights different between the two vehicles? The level of the trailer frame may make the difference?


Slight height difference but not much. Doesn't really matter, Ranger has 185,000 miles so it's not like I use it as a regular tow vehicle. In fact, I never tow my boats anywhere, so why did I join this thread anyway???
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Fixed the problem.

Put the boat back on the trailer. Clocked in 70 hours between july 4th and yesterday, not too bad.
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Try lowering the tyre pressure to 28 or so PSI.

Make surE ethe tyres are properly balanced.
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