gt40 fcc stuck

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   Hi, I've got a 97 SN GT40 with around 500 hours on it.  I've put about 150 hours on it since I bought it.  I went to replace the filter in the FCC and I can't get it open!  I read where they can be tight from the factory but this is ridiculous.  I can't budge it with any kind of oil wrench.  I'm afraid to put too much pressure on it and possibly break it.  Any ideas?
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wtrskir Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: July-13-2013 Location: Midland, MI Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote wtrskir Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: gt40 fcc stuck Posted: July-13-2013 at 3:59pm
	Hi, I've got a 97 SN GT40 with around 500 hours on it. I've put about 150 hours on it since I bought it. I went to replace the filter in the FCC and I can't get it open! I read where they can be tight from the factory but this is ridiculous. I can't budge it with any kind of oil wrench. I'm afraid to put too much pressure on it and possibly break it. Any ideas? Thanks

Bri892001 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bri892001 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-13-2013 at 9:12pm
	The only answer I've heard of is the BACLs. _ _ Channel Locks http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00004SBCX/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?ref_=cm_sw_em_r_am_ip_am_us

SNobsessed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102	Post Options Post Reply Quote SNobsessed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-13-2013 at 11:41pm
	Pack it in dry ice? Maybe it will shrink & loosen up.
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ArtCozier Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Joined: April-25-2012 Location: Orlando FL Status: Offline Points: 1023	Post Options Post Reply Quote ArtCozier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-13-2013 at 11:59pm
	There is a plumber's tool called a chain wrench that is designed to hold larger pipe and fittings. It's an incredibly simple tool, and I've never failed to get an FCC off with it. That's many dozens or maybe hundreds. Mine has about a 10-inch long handle. I got it at Sears. Put the wrench right at the bottom of the FCC, where it is the strongest. You will need to have someone with a crowbar or something similar to help back up the bracket so that you don't bend the bracket. Don't forget that it's right-hand thread, so being inverted, you are going to turn it clockwise looking at it from above. When you reassemble, grease the thread and the 0-ring real well and don't overtighten it. Makes life easier next time. Cycle the key a few times to pump the FCC full before you try to start up. Art
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wtrskir Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: July-13-2013 Location: Midland, MI Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote wtrskir Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-14-2013 at 12:41am
	Thanks for the info guys. Guess I'll be heading to Sears this week to get a chain wrench.

M3Fan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185	Post Options Post Reply Quote M3Fan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-14-2013 at 12:51am
	Screw the chain wrench. Big Channelocks FTW.
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ArtCozier Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Joined: April-25-2012 Location: Orlando FL Status: Offline Points: 1023	Post Options Post Reply Quote ArtCozier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-14-2013 at 1:03pm
	We all have the privilege of expressing our opinions. What I have against the chan-nel-locks is that they might egg-shape the can, while the chain grips it 360 degrees and there is less chance of damage. Not that I've never done the pliers in a pinch. Art
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	Art, I'm with you on the chain wrench since it does grip almost the complete circumference on the can.
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MI-nick Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: January-12-2009 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Status: Offline Points: 810	Post Options Post Reply Quote MI-nick Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-15-2013 at 2:27pm
	best way is to remove it from the boat, put the can in a vice, and use a 3' pipe or angle iron b/w the bolts on the lid...some super human strength was used to install these at the factory...

DeepCreekNauti Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: October-21-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 156	Post Options Post Reply Quote DeepCreekNauti Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: July-15-2013 at 4:24pm
	Heat it with a torch? I got lucky. Mine came off with an truck oil filter wrench and a whole lot of cursing. Please don't take that torch idea too seriously.

tjca77 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April-29-2014 Location: Dunwoody Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote tjca77 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-21-2022 at 9:37am
	Good morning all, I know this is a super old thread, but had a question on how to "back up the bracket with a crowbar". Where would I place the crowbar while trying to turn the fcc? I am going to tackle removing my fcc this weekend and have a new chain wrench. I tried previously with a strap wrench and it wouldn't budge, hopefully some tape around the canister and the chain will do the trick. Thanks in advance for the help. TJ.

Jonny Quest Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: August-20-2013 Location: Utah--via Texas Status: Offline Points: 2974	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jonny Quest Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-21-2022 at 10:38am
	I used a big-ass aluminum pipe wrench. Like a 30" or 36” bad-boy. Duct tape on the FCC for protection. Easy-Peasy JQ.
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Morfoot Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: February-06-2004 Location: South Lanier Status: Offline Points: 5320	Post Options Post Reply Quote Morfoot Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-21-2022 at 11:18am
	TJ.....Next door neighbor and I had the very same issue with his 03 SN. We used everything we had to get that sucker loose on the boat to no avail. Finally got tired of wrestling with it and he removed it from the boat but it in a vise and soaked the threads with Knock-R-Loose for a couple days and was able to finally get it off. Gorillas musta tightened that thing on. Definitely needed changed as it smelled really bad. Probably had never been changed.
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tjca77 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April-29-2014 Location: Dunwoody Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote tjca77 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-21-2022 at 12:43pm
	JQ, thanks for the advise on the pipe wrench and the tape, sounds like these can be a challenge. Tim, hope you are well, been a while. Hopefully I dont have to remove it, but good to know that soaking it and pulling it worked as a last resort. I have a 15" chain wrench and can put a cheater on it if needed. It doesn't sound like it will hurt it to put some back into it tugging on that part. I do not know if the fuel filter has ever been changed on my 2000. I have not done it, so it is time. Going to have a go on Saturday.

KENO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11093	Post Options Post Reply Quote KENO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-21-2022 at 7:25pm
	Here's a link to a CCF thread that in the first post about 1/2 way down has a YouTube link to someone changing his filter. link It'll give you an idea of what's inside the FCC along with showing him unscrewing the canister and putting things back together.. One thing to watch out for is the short fuel line from the pump. You don't want to twist or kink it when reassembling things. People have done that and it made for an engine that didn't run because fuel couldn't pass through it from the pump. If you're replacing the hose and using Oetiker clamps like he did in the video, you should really use Oetiker clamp pliers that are made for the job. You get a better "squeeze" on the clamp

tjca77 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April-29-2014 Location: Dunwoody Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote tjca77 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-21-2022 at 10:26pm
	Thanks KENO, the visual was super helpful. I need to watch it a few more times.

gun-driver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4127	Post Options Post Reply Quote gun-driver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-22-2022 at 7:17pm
	Make sure your turning it the correct way, this has happened in the past.

tjca77 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April-29-2014 Location: Dunwoody Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote tjca77 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-23-2022 at 10:09am
	Got the canister off, any suggestions on putting something on the threads to keep them from seizing up so bad. I have some never seized compound for steel pipe, but wasn't sure that would be appropriate. Thanks everyone for the help.

Jonny Quest Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: August-20-2013 Location: Utah--via Texas Status: Offline Points: 2974	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jonny Quest Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-23-2022 at 10:29am
	Permatex anti-seize 80078 (or similar) on the threads. Good to go. Mine gets done today and that’s what I’m using. JQ
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tjca77 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April-29-2014 Location: Dunwoody Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote tjca77 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: April-23-2022 at 10:03pm
	Thanks JQ. Quick trip to Autozone and I was able to get a can of Permatex and finish things up before lunch. I used a Crescent 15" chain wrench, to get the FCC off. Prior to that I tried a cheap strap wrench, which did nothing. Before using the chain wrench I did cover the top part of the fcc with a layer of painter's tape and two layers of duck tape. This did prevent scrapes where the chain was. It helped some where the wrench teeth were. There are 2 small marks where the wrench teeth bit, no big deal. Boat ran well after the change and the old filter and gas that came out of the fcc were filthy. It was well worth the effort. Thanks again everyone for the help and information, without it I would not have been able to complete the change. Hopefully the warm weather is here to stay, looking forward to a ski soon.

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