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We have an X5 with the V8, pulls the boat quite well. In a panic stop to avoid some deer it almost saved us. The brakes worked very well, we would have been OK but I hit another car. I needed about 5 more feet to have a complete stop. We also have a GMC Yukon and I think the BMW stopped stronger than the Yukon ever could have.
The V8 with 350 HP and a 6 speed pulls as fast as you want in any conditions.
Personally I prefer to tow with a longer wheel base and even the Yukon with less horsepower and weaker braking feels better when towing.
The F350 Ford with the new 6.7 Diesel could pull a 20,000 pound trailer so no surprise it pulls the Nautique well. Those things are beasts.
My Rancher buddy pulls his cattle trailer in Idaho with one. Says he can't believe it when he hits the highway overloaded with 20 head in a trailer, he leaves his ranch at 6,000 elevation and goes over a local summit at 8,000 elevation and says he has to slow down for the corners going up the hill. That is with a 6,000 pound trailer loaded with 20 cows, at least a 22,000 pound load. Those trucks are real beasts on the road.
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Mercedes GLK 250.   
2.1 twin turbo 4cyl with 369 foot pound of torque at 1600. all wheel drive.
its small but 4200 lbs.   Call it the wiener dog of cars, it thinks it is way bigger than it is.   
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Originally posted by shierh shierh wrote:

Mercedes GLK 250.   
2.1 twin turbo 4cyl with 369 foot pound of torque at 1600. all wheel drive.
its small but 4200 lbs.   Call it the wiener dog of cars, it thinks it is way bigger than it is.   



If this is the same engine as we use in our Euro Sprinters 2.1 diesel change oil every 10k and only use Mercedes Low ash oil and you should get over 200K out of the engine.

Good engine if looked after or you will knock the end out from 100K a new engine fitted comes in at £8K in the UK


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Originally posted by shierh shierh wrote:

Mercedes GLK 250.   
2.1 twin turbo 4cyl with 369 foot pound of torque at 1600. all wheel drive.
its small but 4200 lbs.   Call it the wiener dog of cars, it thinks it is way bigger than it is.   


That’s crazy torque from 2.1L. Wow. Must be one of the highest torque per CC engines in the world. Would make a great ski boat engine with the right transmission.
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sequential turbos make it possible. Diesels always have awesome torque. You would never know it was a diesel by driving it. Sounds like a slightly noisy 4 cyl gas engine.
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An important asset to get the utility trailer out of the backyard.

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Chris,
Fantastic idea!! Now you've giver me an idea. Did you put larger tires on it that what was on the blower originally?


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Yes, they are 8x16s, I think normally go on a rider mower.      I did some welding magic to adapt the hubs to the snowblower axles.

I paid more for the tires than for the snowblower!
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You should go into the business!
Making trailer mules and jetjohns would keep you real busy in your retirement.


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Better make it bigger,I'll bet moving one of these around would be a workout...

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Truth be known, there is a inherent defect in walk behind tuggers.

It works great on level concrete, but it wants to torque over on itself when you turn corners off pavement.

It really needs to have the ball below axle center & exactly between the wheels to keep it stable.
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Maybe a couple of short, 12" or so, wheelie bars in the back? Or would you just be tripping over them all the time?

I'd expect the traction/weight limitations to be a problem when not on a hard surface. Nice machine though!
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6.7L pulls like a dream. I only have an OG 210 so I don’t really even know it’s back there, but I pull my buddies G23 sometimes and it has no problems. I will say the mileage is what I’m not impressed with. Pulling my boat I get about 12 and pulling his I get 10. Which is really hard to believe on my boat only being 5,000-5,200 lbs on the trailer...Empty I will get anywhere from 17-22 depending on what tune I’m running.



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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Maybe a couple of short, 12" or so, wheelie bars in the back? Or would you just be tripping over them all the time?

I'd expect the traction/weight limitations to be a problem when not on a hard surface. Nice machine though!

I will say that the ball mount I fabbed up for the tractor has been a great help. With the hydraulic lift, I don't even need to get off to hook up the trailer. The only down side is in winter when I need the blower and the reason Chris's idea is interesting. I do have an old walk behind blower.

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Since the picture was taken, I did add 18 more inches to the mount to get the ball farther out from the front of the tractor.


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I really like my wife's Escape to tow, but she prefers I use my own older Escape. Gets 18-20mpg towing, depending on terrain and what I'm pulling, and up to 32 not towing if you have a very light foot. It's a great tow vehicle.
I miss my old tow car a bit. It only got about 16-30 towing depending on what I was towing. The mirrors were a bit short for the 'toon, but I could see under the deck with the windshield mounted rear view mirror. It got 35-40 cruising on the highway and about 30 around town, provided you weren't on the gas all the time.Too bad Saturn bit the dust.

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I put ball on my zero turn, on the rear about 18-20” high. Too much tongue weight and all my boats lift the front wheels completely off the ground. I guess I could keep the tongue jack lowered to absorb the weight but I bet it’ll just dig into the ground too much.
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Here is my to the ramp and back puller. 1999, 185000 miles, rides rough, drives ok, and gets terrible gas mileage. I still like it though!


   
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rides rough, drives ok, and gets terrible gas mileage. I still like it though!

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Originally posted by Brit_hunsicker Brit_hunsicker wrote:

6.7L pulls like a dream. I only have an OG 210 so I don’t really even know it’s back there, but I pull my buddies G23 sometimes and it has no problems. I will say the mileage is what I’m not impressed with. Pulling my boat I get about 12 and pulling his I get 10. Which is really hard to believe on my boat only being 5,000-5,200 lbs on the trailer...Empty I will get anywhere from 17-22 depending on what tune I’m running.

Are you using tow mode when towing the boat? If so I wonder if that is killing the mileage.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:


Are you using tow mode when towing the boat? If so I wonder if that is killing the mileage.

I have tried tow mode on and off via the shift lever and also adjusted my tuner on all 4 different settings with no noticeable increase in mpg.
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After 2 years with the Tahoe we put the hitch on to drag a trailer to Maine. Mileage dropped from 18 to 13.7 with an empty trailer. It will be interesting to see what the additional drop in mileage with the 206 behind it.
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That's an even stranger one. My '10 Tahoe with 5.3 when I had it would drop from 17 to 12 or 13 when towing 4000 plus lbs. Never pulled an empty trailer far enough to know what mileage would be, but that drop you are seeing doesn't make sense to me. Trailer weighs 1000 lbs or so, 2 more wheels on the ground, but virtually no wind resistance. Loss of over 4 mpg?
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My '10 Avalanche 5.3 gets 18.2 to 18.4 bed fully loaded 2 people on the interstate alone. 16.7 to 17.5 towing small box trailer same bed load. Towing approx 900 lb load in same trailer 15.1 to 15.3. Towing the Nautique, 2 people no other load using tow mode 10.8 to 11.8. This is with the standard 3.08 gear and 4 cylinder mode disconnected. All approx at 70 mph
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My 07 Silverado has 2200-2800lbs of tools in it within 5 aluminum weathergaurd boxes. I routinely get 10.5 mpg. For awhile I decided to reconfigure my tool box situation so I pulled my boxes off and temp mounted them onto a 5x8 all expanded metal northern tool special mini $700 trailer. I did take a few tools off at this time but according to my weekly trip to the dump my weight maintained that extra 22-2800lbs which included the weight of trailer. Towing the trailer but still the same weight as before my mileage dropped to 8.5. Unhitch the trailer to where my truck was completely empty weighing in at 6200 pounds and my mileage went back to 10.5 as was when I had all the weight in the bed.
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Todd, what engine in the Silverado?
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Todd, what engine in the Silverado?

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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

but virtually no wind resistance. Loss of over 4 mpg?

I wouldn't call that no wind resistance at all. That's a wide, long trailer.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

but virtually no wind resistance. Loss of over 4 mpg?

I wouldn't call that no wind resistance at all. That's a wide, long trailer.


I'm sure there's some resistance but how much it affects the fuel mileage is debatable. I'd say if you coat the trailer with some Amsoil, it sure would reduce the resistance and probably it's operating temperature too!


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