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    Posted: February-03-2014 at 6:50pm
I posted this on another forum and was referred here.

Im considering looking for an older Nautique, late 80's early 90's? I know that as far as the wood going bad a lot has to do with how the boat has been cared for and stored. Im wondering if there is an age that stringers are expected to require replacement/repair even with a boat that's been care for? How long is too long before repairs will be inevitable?

Also, if I were to go with a 93 or later (which I believe is when CC switched to fiberglass)would I avoid the issue of having to ever deal with the hull altogether or are there other issues with those stringers that may come up...cracking etc?
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They don't all go bad. Find a nice boat and keep it that way, it will outlast you.

Wet foam trapped in a fiberglass structure is still a valid concern.

I don't think CCF has seen any damaged wood-less stringers yet.
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Glen, Hollywood is right. I bought an 89 last year and my biggest concern was the stringers. I did a lot of research on here on the inspection process. Google this and read. "correct craft fan stringer inspection" look at how the boat was cared for. I wouldn't worry about the stringers in an older year boat. You just need to do the proper steps and make sure they're ok. Sure the newer Nautiques are composte but is that the year you like? It can be scary when you see the repair process on wooden stringers. It did me. You can really find some nice older boats out there.
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The 1980 and up boats also use a cradle which does help some when the stringers start to get water logged. The cradle helps keep things closer to where they need to be. However, you still need to do an alignment now matter what year you end up with.

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An alignment? Sorry, but Ive been out of skiing for quite a while. What/how would you actually align?
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Read the stringer description in this ad.

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Originally posted by Cumby Cumby wrote:

An alignment? Sorry, but Ive been out of skiing for quite a while. What/how would you actually align?

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Alignment has nothing to do with skiing. It's a requirement on any inboard. I feel you had better take a close look at this video to get an understanding and then check the boat you want to purchase.


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If you're old, might not be able to read it above. Correct Craft down playing composite stringers.

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Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. I meant that the last time I was around a Nautique was probably when most of these boats we are talking about were new! That being the case, there certainly wasn't any major mechanical issues with them that I was exposed to back then. Fast fwd 20+ years later with me not plugged in to skiing much at all (and boat-less that whole time), and you guys are talking some different language on some of this stuff.

I understand the shaft alignment issue but I was confused and thought we were still talking about some alignment on the stringers. Ive been in a boat with a badly bent shaft before. Pretty ugly.
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Originally posted by Cumby Cumby wrote:

Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. I meant that the last time I was around a Nautique was probably when most of these boats we are talking about were new! That being the case, there certainly wasn't any major mechanical issues with them that I was exposed to back then. Fast fwd 20+ years later with me not plugged in to skiing much at all (and boat-less that whole time), and you guys are talking some different language on some of this stuff.

I understand the shaft alignment issue but I was confused and thought we were still talking about some alignment on the stringers. Ive been in a boat with a badly bent shaft before. Pretty ugly.

As Donald mentioned, the aluminum engine cradle that CC started using in 1980 largely prevents alignment issues due to stringer deterioration. Checking/setting proper alignment is always important on any inboard. However, a boat whose engine mounts are sitting directly on the stringers and lagged down to them is very much depending on the condition of those stringers in order to maintain proper alignment. If those lags loosen, allowing the motor to move, or if the stringers rot to the point where the mounts fall into them (I have seen this on several occasions), misalignment will occur. Boats with cradles spread the weight over a much larger area of the stringers, are lagged down to them in more points, and in CC's case, connect the 2 stringers together (as well as the pylon). This makes for a far superior engine mounting scheme that is far less dependent on stringer condition in order to stay put.

Not that stringer condition is unimportant in a cradled boat, but its not as critical in maintaining proper powertrain alignment.
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your first name wouldn't happen to be Jason, would it??
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just checking...my wife went to school in upstate SC with a jason cumby...maybe different spelling...anyway, if you're mainly into skiing, you'd be better off with a '93 or newer.
As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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Just a nickname for me. What school? That name sounds familiar to me...not sure from where.

Did the exhaust get changed in 93? That's one thing I would miss!
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dorman in spartanburg...emily (used to be) sturm is my wife.

i'm pretty sure the exhaust went from dual to single in '89.
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Yep, 89 for the single 4 inch exhaust with invertaflow muffler.
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Originally posted by MI-nick MI-nick wrote:

your first name wouldn't happen to be Jason, would it??

Nick,
Click on a members profile and if filled in you will typically find a first name! You will see in my post above, I found his name to be Glen!


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Ah yes, Dorman. The school/campus is so large the kids refer to it as the "U" and flash the Miami sign at football games. I'm from Greenville and went to Eastside. The Duval's original home.
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Originally posted by Cumby Cumby wrote:

I posted this on another forum and was referred here.

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i did that!! i swear it wasn't filled in when I checked

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by MI-nick MI-nick wrote:

your first name wouldn't happen to be Jason, would it??

Nick,
Click on a members profile and if filled in you will typically find a first name! You will see in my post above, I found his name to be Glen!
As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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