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velde99
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1991 Barefoot 1991 Barefoot with extra exhaust port Was thinking of using something like this to split the exhaust at the bottom instead of cutting a second exhaust port in the hull. I think this would be a pretty good option. |
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tullfooter
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My buddy Shawn bought Brian's (Hotboat) '91 with the through hull exhaust. I have to say it sounds sweet. I thought it would be obnoxious to foot behind, but I was wrong. At 100' and at water level, it sounds like my boat. From the shore, it sounds a little like a drag boat. The other nice thing is that it's not too load inside the boat.
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As mentioned, I feel you need some work on the carb. What did your "mechanic" do to "dial it down"? |
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I'd rather poison the fish than my passengers, so this looks intriguing..... the marine fresh air exhaust adaptor I always wondered if you could do and I had to google it to see. Wow that's brilliant. No soot on my transom. I need a new platform anyway I might go solid and see how that does. I am not having gas or buring oil types of smells, it's just exhaust and obviously that's part of having a 78 boat but I'll have to investigate some more since I'm always the selfish bastard driving :)
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SNobsessed
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Did i mention Fresh Air Exhaust adapter?
It works & is non-permanent. |
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Thinking Pete has been sniffing too many exhaust and glue fumes, lmao!!
Get carb worked out, if you feel problem still exists then by all means add barrier as mentioned above. The factory did it at some point, early 90's IIRC for the open platform, today they are all closed platforms for this exact reason. |
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TRBenj
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Ignore Pete, nothing wrong with having people in the back seat.
Excessive fumes are not normal. Do you also get soot on your transom? An improperly adjusted carb will cause both. |
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Ok, you said minimize, I said avoid. Pretty similar, but I agree not exact.
With a following breeze, my '63 gets fumes in the back seat at speeds in maybe the 8-18 mph range. I have no platform. But I've had so much fun in that boat cruising around with friends/kids in any and all seats that the last thing I'm going to do is minimize back seat usage. I usually just add some throttle and get on plane, with the smaller wakes and speed generated breeze the fumes are gone. |
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63 Skier
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Pete, sometimes I just have to push back a bit. Avoid having passengers in the back seat of his boat? The guy has a very cool classic boat, if I was him I'd have passengers back there and cruise around the lake every chance I got. That's not the answer.
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8122pbrainard
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Dan,
The flappers are not intended to redirect the exhaust. They are used to prevent water from being forced into the exhaust when abruptly reversing the boat. "Too much oil"? I think you may have misunderstood your mechanic. I think what he was referring to was a fuel rich odor caused by the carb. Maybe a carb rebuild is due? What did he do to "dial it down"? Keep the platform original and address the carb. Also, keep in mind the primary use of the boat is skiing so minimize passengers in the aft seat. |
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Oh, and flappers have no impact at all, they are just there to avoid taking a wave up the tailpipes with the engine off. Most older boats don't have them anyway.
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There are a few threads on this site that show putting a barrier under the platform to keep fumes from coming up through the slats, I think maybe plexiglass was used but not sure.
Too much oil - can't understand that one. Even if you overfilled the crankcase it would not cause exhaust fumes unless you had excessive engine wear and blow-by. Exhaust smell - it's possible your engine is running rich and the fumes are laden with gas. In general, in the older boats with people in the back seat there is more chance of fumes being pulled into the back of the boat, especially at just below planing speeds with the huge wakes and bow up attitude. |
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I have a 1978 Correct Craft. Any ideas on reducing exhaust odor? Will new exhaust flappers help reduce does it really matter? Mine are a bit tore up... back seat passengers sometimes complain of exhaust odor, which is normal for an older engine duh. It has gotten better b/c my mechanic explained to me that people often put too much oil in my particular engine so since we dialed it down it's been much better. I was wondering if I swapped to a solid platform with no gaps and just solid wood and potentially extend it out a few inches it might give the exhaust a little more of a barrier to transmit odors and wash out with less backdraft ...That yellow correct craft gives me a lump in my pants.
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SNobsessed
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The PVC temp problem is not normal operating conditions, rather the overheat condition when the RWP fails. Failures happen, best not to let them cause a secondary failure, like sinking the boat.
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My 75 Nautique has copper tubing and no muffler. Yes, it is louder than the other boats on the river but it has a nice rumble. Everyone knows who it is when my boat is running.
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8122pbrainard
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Rod,
I'd stay away from PVC all together. Yes, it may work and has for some but keep in mind that the section you want to replace is below the water line. I don't feel it's worth taking a chance. FRP tubing, rubber hose all the way, aluminum, SS or even copper are better choices. |
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velde99
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Headed to work- I will post some pictures later. Thanks for the comments 63skier
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63 Skier
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I have experience with schedule 80 PVC, and while more robust than schedule 40 it still drooped quite a bit with hot water in a factory environment. Doubt you'd have good results with CPVC.
Not sure I'm picturing correctly what you are trying to do. Wouldn't you use exhaust hose onto standard exhaust tips? |
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MSST30
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Spears CPVC has a maximum temperature rating of 200 F. probably not enough for a dry exhaust
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MSST30
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I do know about using it as an exhaust piping. In the plumbing industry schedule 40 is only rated for piping carrying water at temperatures of 140 and less. it will soften ad begin to sag at higher temperatures. I definitely would not use it if water was not running with the exhaust. I am not sure what temperatures ratings are for CPVC. Google Charolette pipe and you should be able to find the temperature ratings for CPVC
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velde99
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So cpvc pipe can be used????
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Standard schedule PVC (white) is rated for 140 degrees. CPVC has a higher heat rating.
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The trapped water has to climb about 12", that's not enough head pressure to choke up a V8 exhaust.
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Hmmm,..... Orange,...... motor tweaked.........Shrimp Tique version 1.0? |
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How does it work with an inboard's wet exhaust heading down under the floor, then uphill to those very high pipes on the transom? I'd have thought either the water has to be scavenged elsewhere or it would create a trap that impeded exhaust flow.
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That's awesome!
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quinner
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Something to consider if the exhaust is above the platform is the station wagon effect and the possibility of exhaust fumes lingering back into the boat.
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