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You will also need a carb and an intake - and some fuel system changes.
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Not very original but might as well just drop a new engine in!!


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It is still pretty much the next step here outside of getting handy with a soldering iron or the solutions being worked on over at PN. If I was a PCM garage or shop and it wasn't being supported anymore I would send it back to a carb and distributor in a hurry.   
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Not very original but might as well just drop a new engine in!!


You are probably getting pretty close to justifying an excal bobtail but in another 20 years you will need a new ecm for that one...
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I have to agree!!
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Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:



You are probably getting pretty close to justifying an excal bobtail but in another 20 years you will need a new ecm for that one...


Another 20 years I won't care anyway
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Gary, I had a problem getting my cel to stay off on a 2003 Durango. It kept coming up with evap codes, endless finding and changing out the hoses. Then it just stayed on, I'd reset it, a day or two later back on again. My repair shop said they can pass a vehicle if no codes are found, they did something to make special note of it and gave me the inspection info sheet to keep in the car. Not sure if IL has similar rules or not.


Dave I'll bet we have similar problems p0456- (ECM) has detected a very small leak in the evaporative system ? was the old code before I took it to the dealer,now just a light and no code. Here in Illinois if you spend over $450 you can get a wavier. Our son went to get one but I think he took an attitude in with him and found out that does not work. The test center looked at the dealer work order and noticed it had Grand Cherokee on it when in fact it's a Cherokee. Even though the vin was on the sheet too, the guy gave him a hard time. I took a chance and told just to him to take in in when the light was out.
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Hi in the car industry there is a company called Cardone.    They can rebuild ECM modules for cars. It should not be to hard to send them a ECM to save the program from then they would have the program to download into a ECM after it has been repaired. If I get a chance I will investigate further. This should not be that hard of a problem to solve.
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Originally posted by fgroce fgroce wrote:

Hi in the car industry there is a company called Cardone.    They can rebuild ECM modules for cars. It should not be to hard to send them a ECM to save the program from then they would have the program to download into a ECM after it has been repaired. If I get a chance I will investigate further. This should not be that hard of a problem to solve.

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This looks like the outfit you speak of My only concern is somewhere at sometime I thought I heard that the ECM program is proprietary to PCM?? I'm sure a call to them would be needed.


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Well I think your partially correct Pete in that it's proprietary but if according to the PN guy they were able to read and record the programing. It does not seem that they can reprogram an ECM but they can add a chip to override whats in there. Here is a link to the "chip"
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Hi just in case you did not see the other post. I talked to a Cardone representative today and they do not have this part number on file. But to get a broken one repaired. Take the ECM to a local Cardone dealer. They will send it to Cardone and once it gets to the Philadelphia repair center it should be a five day turn around. Once it is evaluated and repaired they will assign a Cardone part number to it and then anyone should be able to get one. I have used their repair service before with no problems. Hope this gets rid of some of the fears of owning a GT40 engine.
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Ski-Naut are you going to be the first one to try Cardone for the repair of your ECM?
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fgroce, I don't know at this time. I need to contact them and see what they have to offer. Thanks for the lead.
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Check out Gt40ecm.com ecu's in stock ready to ship. These come plug and play no wire cutting or modifying. please ask for questions.
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Originally posted by Mike9812121298 Mike9812121298 wrote:

Check out Gt40ecm.com ecu's in stock ready to ship. These come plug and play no wire cutting or modifying. please ask for questions.


Where is this place?

Not much info on the website like a phone number so you could talk to a real person
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Originally posted by Mike9812121298 Mike9812121298 wrote:

Check out Gt40ecm.com ecu's in stock ready to ship. These come plug and play no wire cutting or modifying. please ask for questions.

Here's a direct link
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Looks like the only way to get in touch with him is via the sites contact form.


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Mike

A quick Google search tells me that you're the guy selling these, so why not be upfront about it in the first place?

Link to Ball of Spray where you're selling also.

See posts from Oct 19, 20 by Mike9812121298

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Mike's intentions confuse me. At a price of $650, vs the $113 on the PN page, what is the difference between the two methods, other than $537 more

PN reprogrammed

Maybe just time? If I had a GT40, I'd probably pick up a spare or two via the linked page and be set for a long time.

IIRC, Mike came to the site asking for help, and he got it...Now he's trying to help (while making a big profit)
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Originally posted by scootdogydog scootdogydog wrote:

Mike's intentions confuse me. At a price of $650, vs the $113 on the PN page, what is the difference between the two methods, other than $537 more

PN reprogrammed

Maybe just time? If I had a GT40, I'd probably pick up a spare or two via the linked page and be set for a long time.

IIRC, Mike came to the site asking for help, and he got it...Now he's trying to help (while making a big profit)

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Are you willing to take a chance at buying a used ECM off Ebay and then replacing the chip in hopes it would work?


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Scott I'm sure that he must re manufacture and rigorously test each donor ECM. Then he had to buy the the reader and burn equipment and have an original good ECM to download the original tune- so it all adds up. You and I would just go on ebay buy a ecm and hope it works. Then we'd go on the original PN thread and have one of the guys who did the original figuring this out, burn a chip with the tune they pulled from their very own ECM. Then you'd try to get them to take compensation for all their help which they would refuse because they were happy to help out the community. Either way it's cheaper than PCM's fix of replacing the complete engine. So you do your homework and make your choice. Up and running I have around 180 in mine.
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Scott,
Are you willing to take a chance at buying a used ECM off Ebay and then replacing the chip in hopes it would work?


Curious Pete how often do you run across a bad automotive ECM? I gambled 75 bucks on one, it's fine. How much money will be spent on lottery tickets this week with the odds being much greater?
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I agree, get the ECU from Mike. He's giving a 30 day warranty! What could be easier? These GT 40's are great engines, keep it going.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


Scott,
Are you willing to take a chance at buying a used ECM off Ebay and then replacing the chip in hopes it would work?


Curious Pete how often do you run across a bad automotive ECM? I gambled 75 bucks on one, it's fine. How much money will be spent on lottery tickets this week with the odds being much greater?

Gary,
You are correct. Even though I did buy a Mega ticket last week, the chances are higher with getting a good ECM off Ebay!


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I found the fix for my PCM GT40 EFI late this summer. I went through the whole process of buying a used ECM off of Ebay and adding my tune to the Motes chip and didn't work for me. I know a couple of people that it worked for. Contact Norm at Affordable Fuel Injection just north of Detroit MI and he will get you up and running. Here is the web site   https://www.affordable-fuel-injection.com/
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When i had a problem with my 95' at the start of last summer, there was no one online selling ecm's for the gt40. I had to do my homework, buy different ecm's off ebay and buy the programming equipment to get it up and running. If there was someone online that was just selling the ecm, i would have went that route to get my boat in the water faster. Im simply just trying to provide a service to make it easier on people that dont want to do the leg work. The ecu's on ebay that you have to use are starting to get into the 70-100 dollar range. The prices are going up. the chip you need for this also runs 85 dollars and that's not including the programmer and the adapter.

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Which tune are you burning,the 290 or the 300?
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