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ArtCozier
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Didn't know until now that you had gotten CC emblems with it. Can you post a photo of them? If so, please put a size reference such as a ruler with it. I might be able to tell the era of the boat by their design. |
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ArtCozier
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Yes, Gary; I believe that the Deboaire name was re-used a few times. I have seen a couple of different spellings of it in the archives, not sure if it's an error or intentional. There is a fiberglass one in the barn at Southeast that is a tri-hull with that name on it. |
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Gary S
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Unfortunately you'd be upside down the minute you walk into a restoration shop. Like it has been said before just because it's rare does not make it valuable.
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8122pbrainard
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Joe,
Regarding the value, that is a difficult question. Yes it's unique but also I can say not really sought after so, a buyer will probably be hard to find. The $$? I can honestly say that if you had a pro restore it, the cost would be more than the value around 3 to 4 fold. It's the man hours that cost the $$. Projects like this are typically done by individuals with a "labor of love" attitude. As a reference, I have seen similar boats go for around $500. |
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Anax
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Depending on the value I might have it professionally restored. I got it so cheap I figured I couldn't mess up much value. But as I seeing this unique I wouldn't want to mess it up.
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Anax
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Also does any know a ball park in value. I am able to find prices for inboards. But I can't find anything on this.
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Anax
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The gauges, engine, outboard and decking match everything of correct craft. Gary has posted some great pics of pretty much identical boats.
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Gary S
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It looks to match up with the one I referenced to on eBay Art. And it looks sort of like the ones in the brochure thats been posted. I thought the Debonair's were big but maybe over the years the name has been reused?
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Anax
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Other than from the old man I bought it from. the correct craft emblems that came with the boat. And pictures to compare to I have no proof that it's a correct craft
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ArtCozier
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This is an interesting project. First time I've seen it; have been absent from the forums recently. It sure would be interesting to determine what we called this model. We built some various models all called Debonnaire it could be one of those. Have you found evidence on it that it is in fact a Correct Craft? Many companies built wooden I/O's.
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Anax
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Lol yeah the amateur sanding was me.
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8122pbrainard
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Joe,
Rot may be hidden. The typical spot would be low between the transom frame and the ply skin. That especially with an I/O is the low spot in the hull. Both the bilge coated with epoxy and especially the glassed bottom is the "kiss of death" for a wood boat. Both trap moisture. A thin layer of glass over a wood hull that does have movement isn't strong enough so it cracks. Sorry to say but from the first pictures you posted showing that hardware wasn't removed before stripping varnish/stain told me an amateur has been at it!! |
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Anax
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Will do a little info on how I got the boat. I found it on craiglist the older gentlemen who owned it had a 4000 square foot climate controlled warehouse full of antiques. Model t's and old oaklands but he got the boat 20 years ago and it had sat in the warehouse since. There is no rot, on the inside of the hull coated with what looks like a blue eopoxy paint. The bottom has been fiberglassed, He started it up for me.. The carb needs to be rebuit. Other than that all I can find is stripping and an engine tune up.
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8122pbrainard
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Joe,
The start to any wood boat restoration is to strip all hardware, engine, trans, etc. Anything that isn't wood needs to come off. This will also aid flipping the hull for bottom work. I suggest starting there first. Any boat is worthless unless it has a good bottom. One thing of key importance is how CC constructed their ply hulls. They used a bedding compound between all the frames and ply skin that over the years dries out. This leaves nothing but screws holding the ply on. Removing all ply may be needed so it can be re bedded with a modern adhesive/sealant like 3M 5200. Removing the ply will also give you a better opportunity to inspect the frames and do any repair on them. Ply gussets at the knees, keel and stem are a common problem since the same bedding compound was used on them. Keep the pictures coming and your progress posted. |
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Anax
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Do you guys have any tips on restoring this. Or a place to get parts other than eBay?
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Anax
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Yes to the bilge pump
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8122pbrainard
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Joe,
Two of the knobs would be for the choke and running lights. The 3rd may be for a bilge pump IF a PO added one. Is there a pump in the bilge? There also will be the keyed ignition switch and then a starter button if the ignition switch isn't a 3 position. |
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On my 1964 the serial numbers are on the seat frames like Alan mentioned, be sure and check the bases as well.
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Anax
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I figured for the skiers I just didn't know the name lol. Also would any of you know what 3 knobs on the dash are for ? I will post pics later
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8122pbrainard
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Yes, it's the bent piece that's mounted in the center deck/bulkhead. That's where you attach rope(s) to pull skiers. |
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Anax
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The pylon is the metal bar in the center of the boat correct? Sorry this is my first boat I am still learning
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Anax
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Underneath the dash
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Anax
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Just crawled underneath and no numbers
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8122pbrainard
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How about the back side of the dash? |
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Anax
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I have to ask as I informed everyone I am brand new to boating the pylon is the bar in the center of the boat correct?
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Anax
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Their where no numbers behind the seat. I have searched every part of the boat and I can't find any numbers.
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Mojo
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Nice Pylon can't believe the bend and it still in the place it should be...
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05' SV211 TE
73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
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Anax
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Thank you that is very help I will take a look
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81nautique
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Pull the back seat upright out and there may be a number stamped into the wood cross member. If so it will be a Letter indicating Model, 3 digit production # and the 2 digits for the year.
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