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There is a difference in the part number from all the like distributors I looked at on line.

I could not find a single one with the part number ending in an A
There are 2548201 numbers but not 2548201A

Once I finish the other tests recommended above I'll see about acquiring a "Marine" distributor.

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That's the number for an automotive dual point , it'll work but there's always that boom factor
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Gents,

Thanks for all the help, Here are the numbers off of the brand new Distributor.
2548201H

As far as asking the PO a question. I tried once and was disappointed in the answer, enough said.

I'll check the firing order, and the secondaries. I don't suspect the wires to be crossed as it runs so well, no shaking, easy to start, although it does have that tell tale cough once in a while. Flat Mallory distributor cap. Hate those, had a Ford 427 that used that type of cap. There's a very tiny tin clip inside the cap that comes loose and ruins the cap in short order. That was a long time ago, hopefully they are better now.

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Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:

What these guys said... and also double check that you don't have two plug wires switched.


I like that suggestion

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What these guys said... and also double check that you don't have two plug wires switched.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Tony,
Regarding the prop, the 12x14 is not "over propping" the engine and not the problem. Get the boat out on the water and check to see if the carb secondary's are opening. I still feel that could be the problem.

What input if any have you gotten from the PO regarding the engine? Was he the one who installed the non original carb and distributor?


Me and Pete agreeing again

And Pete, you're supposed to let Tim tell him about the prop and then agree but I figure we all think he should see ballpark numbers of about 4500 rpm and around 45 mph with that prop

Like mentioned earlier the carb seems good unless the secondaries are not opening at all so check that out. It's got small primary throttle plates and BIG secondaries so 3200 or so rpm might be all you get on the primaries before the secondaries are needed

And....check the timing at idle and at about 3000 rpm too like mentioned earlier.
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Tony,
Regarding the prop, the 12x14 is not "over propping" the engine and not the problem. Get the boat out on the water and check to see if the carb secondary's are opening. I still feel that could be the problem.

What input if any have you gotten from the PO regarding the engine? Was he the one who installed the non original carb and distributor?


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Tony, your original distributor would have been a Mallory YL 520 CV and probably had the flat cap. Ken and others will get you running well!
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Originally posted by adaily adaily wrote:

If I install the electronic module (no sparking points) can I expect not to blown up? The boat came with the Mallory module in the box.
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Why are you going to the EI conversion?

Tony,
The EI isn't going to fix the stumble nor will it provide any performance gains. Chances are high that the PO didn't want to or didn't know how to set dwell. Some have found that the EI's aren't reliable and others have had good luck with them. Stick with the points for now until you get the stumble fixed.


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I think it's serviceable, some people may not

Even with the electronic module you still have spark as the rotor passes each of the eight terminals so the boom possibility is still there.

Look to see if there are any vent holes about 1/2 inch diameter with vent screens in them.

They're usually in the sides of the housing, sometimes in the bottom.

If the original tag is still on the distributor it should have a number on it Just as an example the number might be something like 2548201 just as an example or if it's older it might say something like YL-624 AV, again just an example. In your picture I think I see it screwed to the cap clip mount 180 degrees from the clip by the condenser. You van just barely see the edge of it I think.

Post that number and we should be able to tell you if it's marine or not
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Thank you for the clarification.
Guessing aside from a possible adjustment the Carburetor is serviceable.
If I install the electronic module (no sparking points) can I expect not to blown up? The boat came with the Mallory module in the box.

Thank you for the help.

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80552 is the list number, it's a marine spread bore 650 cfm carb just like the one in the Summit link that was posted earlier today

The prop is a 12 inch diameter by 14 inch pitch Federal. Probably original. Not the problem

Somebody named TRBenj can tell you more on that

The distributor probably isn't a marine Mallory but a dual point automotive one. Don't see any brass vent screens in the body (a marine one has 2 vent screens) and the red caps have a small vent hole behind one of the clips. The marine ones from Mallory are blue and don't have the vent hole. Dual point distributor has the condenser on the outside because with 2 sets of points under the cap there's no room for the condenser.

it'll work if the weights and springs are operating properly but..................Under the right conditions it might blow your motor box up into the sky and send you flying too
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More pictures. Carb numbers,, Prop. hard to read but maybe enough to make a determination. Distributor.

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Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

the carb you have is a replacement spreadbore. i would either spend the money for a marine edelbrock 600 , holley or one of the copycat style 600cfm or buy a rebuilt marine rochester quadra jet.. did anyone determine whether or not there are all marine parts on that boat? starter   ,distributor, alternator carb?


The carb is indeed a replacement spread bore Holley but you should have added the word Marine

If you go back a number of posts you can find my link to one on the Summit website and you can look at his picture again and see the j tubes as a hint that it's marine (and expensive too)

When he gets the list number that will be helpful
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the carb you have is a replacement spreadbore. i would either spend the money for a marine edelbrock 600 , holley or one of the copycat style 600cfm or buy a rebuilt marine rochester quadra jet.. did anyone determine whether or not there are all marine parts on that boat? starter   ,distributor, alternator carb?
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Will do. 35mph winds today so not very good conditions for a sea trial. I'll see if I can get a better photo.

Nice to have all this expert help.
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If you take a picture of the air horn from the same angle as Gary's picture you should get the list number.

Sure looks to be a 4175 model like I mentioned before (and put the summit link up for) and it has vacuum operated secondaries that will only open as far as the engine load requires unless somebody really messed it up.

A rebuild kit based on the list number is probably around 40 bucks or so and would be worth a try..

If you were going to buy a Rochester I'd use the info that Steve posted

Right now I'm not thinking your problem is the carburetor since it works good at low speeds and up to your max of 3200 rpm unless the secondaries just plain don't open.

They'll only open under load on the water so you'd need the engine box up or off to be able to watch them or move the linkage manually like you previously mentioned.

Give answers to the previous questions when you get them and it'll be helpful



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Good job figuring out posting the pictures by the way.

Next we'll have you posting links, it's easier than pictures

We'll let Pete explain that to ya
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If you click on the link it'll take you to the carburetor I THINK you have now.

Take the flame arrestor off and take a picture of the air horn and the j tubes.

If you have the j tubes it's a marine Holley 4175 and really quite a decent carburetor that Holley made as a Quadrajet replacement.

Like Gary said don't spend any money yet, see what you have first

Maybe the previous owner can tell you something about how it ran


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Lets figure out what you have first Here is where the numbers are that we need. Interesting thing about your carb is that it looks so new. Last owner must have been having issues and finally gave up would be my guess.

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e Bay item, 371316091891 Should this be the correct carb? Rather than fooling around would anyone suggest just installing it.?

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The module came with the boat, I haven't decided to install it. That's the least of my issues right now. I do see the recommended carburetors for sale. That seems to be something I should consider. I'm not comfortable with having the wrong size and make on this engine. Most of my experience has been with outboards.

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This shows the choke side of the carburetor. The number is 603A

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Originally posted by adaily adaily wrote:

It's still set up with points although I do have an electronic module in the box.


Why are you going to the EI conversion?


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The distributor is a new Mallory. Came with the boat. It's still set up with points although I do have an electronic module in the box.

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Interesting,that last picture is not of the carb list number. It is located on the air horn where the choke plate is. That's is why Ken could not find a listing.
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Parts manual 980922 is the one you want. Found some on ebay. The Ken Cook manuals seem to be a bit pricy but others are available.
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Thanks for the pics Tony. Issues with that carb might be far reaching. The correct carb might be in your best interest. Also, is that a prestolite or Mallory distributor? You might want to inspect the guts on that also. a service and parts manual is great to have. On the service manual, look for an original OMC SDL-1092. Parts manual 981296 will cover 990322M but not 990322A. You might have to research a little more for the correct one but I bet their close enough. Steve
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A few pictures of the ailing Carburetor.

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