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    Posted: August-14-2017 at 12:04am
Went out to borrow a tool and came home with this beauty, Im thinking its an Atom or Aqua skier. Can anyone assist me in identifying this boat? Been looking in the references and thats what I came up with. Thanks!

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Did they have a HIN number way back then?
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My first thought was the boat is a CC Jr. and an Aqua is a second thought. It's not an Atom. By the looks of the dog house with the raised port side top, I'd say it has or had a Gray Fireball 4-90. The engine has twin down draft carbs that stick above the top of the basic block. What's in it? No HIN's back then. Look for a serial # plate. On a stringer next to the engine, inside the dog house or on a forward port side hull side frame. Nice find!!


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interesting, Ill check of that today. Thanks Pete
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Did the juniors have a ski pylon?
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Good question on what engine is in there. Do you think the dog house is original and if so I'll never worry again about having a bump up for a down draft carb. Our 1950 junior has no pylon. Wondering also what the length is. By the looks of the steering wheel it is from the 50's. Looks like the hull plywood may be sound. Is the top deck 1/4 in ply or 3/8? Seems to be devoid of a routed detail on the top deck as well.
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Originally posted by Brian82683 Brian82683 wrote:

Went out to borrow a tool and came home with this beauty,


   how in the world do you explain that to your wife?     sweet boat though, it will look really pretty when its all dressed up again.
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Originally posted by juniorwoody juniorwoody wrote:

Good question on what engine is in there. Do you think the dog house is original and if so I'll never worry again about having a bump up for a down draft carb. Our 1950 junior has no pylon. Wondering also what the length is. By the looks of the steering wheel it is from the 50's. Looks like the hull plywood may be sound. Is the top deck 1/4 in ply or 3/8? Seems to be devoid of a routed detail on the top deck as well.

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Pylons back then were all optional on the small CC hulls. Here's the price sheet that shows the 4-90 available in the Jr. So, the bump out on the top of the dog house would be original. Yours no!



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The boat is 15'6" and here are some engine pics
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That's her Pete. Same as our Jr Utility engine except with the downdraft carb setups. Guess that's how they gained the HP. I believe ours is 15ft 6in also. I am surprised to see the stem area looks a s good as it does. Alan can attest to there being not much integrity there usually. Down along the chine specially near the drivers seat there may likely be problems also. Ours led to a pretty complete rebuild of many areas and new hull material. I think the deck on ours may be original and it is 3/8 ply. Still in reasonable shape. It becomes a labor of love and can stretch over many years LOL. I think many camps in the New Hampshire and Maine area had a few of these boats for campers use and they seem to show up with some frequency. Ours came from West Ossipee, NH.
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The best part was, when I turned down out street she was on her way home and was behind me...
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Brian,
That's the Gray Fireball 4-90 and I'd say is the original.


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Originally posted by juniorwoody juniorwoody wrote:

That's her Pete. Same as our Jr Utility engine except with the downdraft carb setups. Guess that's how they gained the HP. .

Jack,
The Fireballs also had light weight flywheels and the HP was rated at about 800 extra RPM's at the "red line". BTW, I understand the 4-90 also didn't come with a warrantee!.


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Sounds like they use to overrev them and a few blew up. The 4 75 will be just fine thankyou. Brian the boat is sweet. We were pleased to get ours and I think it will be more fun to operate than many of our others when it's more about the ride then water sports. We saw a little flathead 4 where we were yesterday and I was cool to hear just zipping through the water.
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Yea I'm looking forward to starting it this winter, or tomorrow...lol. so is it definitely a junior? or possibly an aqua skier, what are the differences in the two boats?
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Brian,
Any luck finding the ID/serial # plate? It would confirm the model but it's a CC Jr.

I just noticed the ballast resistor indicating the PO was running on a 12 volt battery. Is there a battery in it? Have you tried cranking the engine over?


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the only plate I could find was on the tranny Ill post a pic soon. Other then that I couldn't find one.
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Originally posted by Brian82683 Brian82683 wrote:

the only plate I could find was on the tranny Ill post a pic soon. Other then that I couldn't find one.

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That's not the ID plate for the boat.


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I realize that, where are they generally located, Maybe I'm not looking hard enough
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Originally posted by Brian82683 Brian82683 wrote:

where are they generally located, Maybe I'm not looking hard enough

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Brian,
No HIN's back then. Look for a serial # plate. On a stringer next to the engine, inside the dog house or on a forward port side hull side frame.


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I just checked both stringers front to back, nothing....So for now we can call it a 1954 CC Jr. I agree, a very cool find. Hopefully I can do her well, have some research to do on where to even begin ....

no seriously where do you begin on this, someone apparently beat me to the restore and sistered some plywood on the ribs...but then left it outside long enough to rot them out.

The port side stringer under the passenger side of the bench seat has a crack in it....the stringers over all look alright considering.
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A few more from when I started to dismantle
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The plywood gussets at the knees and keel are original.


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good to know thanks! thoughts on that stringer?

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Hey Brian,

Do you have any back story on the boat? What town/lake did you find it?
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My earlier post seems to have disappeared. I was saying that watching this thread is like a walk down memory lane. Probably need to remove the plywood skins to do the repairs. I had many pictures on my topic but Photobucket ruined some of that. It's been four years since we started ours but only work on it at times.
I have posted the Gray Marine serial numbers. This should help you Brian to determine the year of the boat.
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No story at all, Im looking in to that though. I found it in a wooded lot and brought it home. Got stung by wasps and had to deal with my wife lol
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Anybody familiar with the Atom enough to know if that sole (floor) is original, I always thought they were plywood...
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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Anybody familiar with the Atom enough to know if that sole (floor) is original, I always thought they were plywood...

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Yes, plywood is original. The PO of Brian's Jr. did some back yard work on the forward end with looks like T&G Fir porch flooring!!!!


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