Wood ski buoyancy?

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   When trying to teach the kids to ski last week the biggest difficulty was the buoyancy of the o'brien fiberglass combos I have.  Most of these kids did not even swim, so they were getting used to floating with life jackets while trying to control the skis.  It made me really want some less buoyant skis.  

Are wood combos less buoyant than fiberglass?  

If so, I think I will keep an eye out for a good used pair.  

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rebel skier Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: October-17-2014 Location: Middle Tenn Status: Offline Points: 777	Post Options Post Reply Quote rebel skier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Wood ski buoyancy? Posted: September-17-2017 at 12:02pm
	When trying to teach the kids to ski last week the biggest difficulty was the buoyancy of the o'brien fiberglass combos I have. Most of these kids did not even swim, so they were getting used to floating with life jackets while trying to control the skis. It made me really want some less buoyant skis. Are wood combos less buoyant than fiberglass? If so, I think I will keep an eye out for a good used pair.
	Hotty Toddy lets go skiing!

Orlando76 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108	Post Options Post Reply Quote Orlando76 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-17-2017 at 1:06pm
	Maybe add some weight on tail of the skis?
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8122pbrainard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045	Post Options Post Reply Quote 8122pbrainard Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-17-2017 at 5:50pm
	Richard, Ski buoyancy for the beginner can be a struggle. When the trainee is fighting it, I've found they aren't bending their knees enough. They need to be squatting more in the starting position. In their minds, they are picturing someone behind the boat with their legs almost in the full upright position. Tell them they need to be almost sitting on the tails of the skis.
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TRBenj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21192	Post Options Post Reply Quote TRBenj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-17-2017 at 7:51pm
	Teaching kids to ski before they know how to swim? Seriously?

Hollywood Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13520	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hollywood Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-17-2017 at 8:37pm
	Skis might also be too big.

rebel skier Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: October-17-2014 Location: Middle Tenn Status: Offline Points: 777	Post Options Post Reply Quote rebel skier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-17-2017 at 10:29pm
	Yes seriously. There were not my kids. These were kids from the projects who may never learn how to swim or get to a lake again. They all had correctly fitted life jackets on before being allowed near the lake. They were going to be on a tube with the other boat whether I was there or not. So, yes, I taught several to ski and kneeboard. Should I not have?
	Hotty Toddy lets go skiing!

8122pbrainard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045	Post Options Post Reply Quote 8122pbrainard Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-17-2017 at 10:33pm
	Richard, I compliment you in your efforts to get those kids out on the water.
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Morfoot Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: February-06-2004 Location: South Lanier Status: Offline Points: 5323	Post Options Post Reply Quote Morfoot Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-18-2017 at 8:11am
	Good job Richard...I've volunteered with Kristi Overton Johnson's In His Wakes Ministry before and have had the same experience. Pretty neat experience to say the least. Same situation as a lot of those kids didn't know how to swim but were brave enough to try and get up on a kneeboard. +1 on what Pete said. Key is to try and get the skier relaxed in the water and "Squat over the Pot". Works really well and is humorous enough to help the skier relax a little bit.
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Riley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7957	Post Options Post Reply Quote Riley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-18-2017 at 9:34am
	I prefer wood water skis for teaching, especially kids.. All the fiberglass skis I've used are too buoyant..

GottaSki Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3365	Post Options Post Reply Quote GottaSki Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-18-2017 at 1:31pm
	For my girl i melted lead sinkers into tuna cans that I pre-scorched the coating off, extracted, painted, and screwed the 1/2" high pucks onto the back of the skis just ahead of the fin, which then floated just in the position one desires.
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8122pbrainard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045	Post Options Post Reply Quote 8122pbrainard Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-18-2017 at 2:36pm
	I've taught plenty of kids on our set of Snoopy beginners and no Tim, some did NOT know how to swim!! Seriously!!!
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TRBenj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21192	Post Options Post Reply Quote TRBenj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September-18-2017 at 2:54pm
	Why bother skiing? Just skip right to barefooting.

gun-driver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4127	Post Options Post Reply Quote gun-driver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: October-28-2017 at 9:09pm
	Forgot I had this, I'm guessing the holes would effect buoyancy.

DrCC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Poobah Joined: April-12-2004 Location: at home Status: Offline Points: 2868	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrCC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: November-01-2017 at 1:02am
	I just sold my pair of Snoopy Ski School skis to World Champion Lisa StJohn and that's one of the first things she said, she preferred the old wood skis because they were less floaty. And make sure your non-swimmers trust their life jacket.
	Keep it....from sinkin'

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