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Nautiquehunter 
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I am thinking about a newer ski boat . Wife got a pull on a 2003 196 and loved it. I would like to get a open bow . How does the wake on a 206 compare to a 196?
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 10:49am |
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Paging Quinner? What speed and line lengths are we talking about? What event? Slalom?
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 11:10am |
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Hi Mike:
(Assuming Gail is slaloming)......Go straight to Joel's boat - I love the 200's! The BEST! The 206 is a terrific entry-level slalom course open-bow boat. It does well if lightly weighted..... but worsens with increasing weight esp. weight astern of the pylon. We feel like it's the best of both worlds (of its era) - practical use and slalom ski-ability. The 196 is the slalom boat of the time, and it slaloms better. BTW - get the 6L, love that engine. |
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75 Tique
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 12:43pm |
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Probably not quite 196 or 200 calibre, but I am guessing more than adequate for a weekend warrior. A little bit of a distant shot, but here I am behind Gregs 206 in the second half of this clip, to give you an idea of the wake (15 off/32 MPH). I think the 206 is a great all around boat.
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 1:15pm |
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@Air206 I was thinking kinda the same thing. The 200 has been around for nearly 10 years at this point. Might be something to seriously consider though I almost never see the older 200's for sale. Once people get them they seem to hang on to them.
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 1:21pm |
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The 206 is very good for what it is, kind of like my Sport, nice slalom wake with low fuel and not much weight. Bump at 22 off is not good, 15 off is very good and I'm not good enough to ski shorter line lengths.
But ..... a 196 is a phenomenal slalom wake. I haven't skied a 200 so can't comment on that but a 196 just is flat and soft and amazing to slalom behind. Hard to say "get a 206" if optimum slalom performance is what you want, but I prefer the bigger boat open bow versatility and don't mind the trade-off of good rather than great slalom wake. |
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75 Tique
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 1:23pm |
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Mike did say he wanted an open bow, rules out 196. Joel is right, not many used 200s out there. the few "old" ones I found were 40-ish. Budget might also be a factor.
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 1:29pm |
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Mike, I would go find a very nice 97-99 closed bow :)
The 206 is weight sensitive as Steve mentioned, if all you plan to use it for is slalom find one without a tower and a keyed ignition for the best wake. 6L is nice but the Excal will do everything you need and even the 5.0L is adequate unless you plan on pulling multiple barefooters. |
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 1:56pm |
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Slalom and open bow just don't go together for any CCs until the 200.
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 2:00pm |
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Mike didnt say she is in 41 off training for the nationals.....
(Hmmmm. recurring theme) |
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 4:03pm |
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Gail skis better behind a 210 than I do behind a 196 - but IIRC they also have more than one closed bow supra comp boat from the late 90s so I would suspect they are trying to make a significant improvement over that. Maybe just equal it with a little more room and style? |
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 4:33pm |
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I would never trade off my ski wake for the open bow, 196 all the way, no question.
I've skied several 206's and they are a great all around boats but if you are looking for a dedicated slalom boat there is no comparison. |
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 4:58pm |
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I knew MIke had the Supras and the comp is a very respectable ski boat, so I assumed as you are, that he is looking for a bit of an upgrade, but with the open bow. Obviously 200 is the ticket, but if budget is a factor, 206 is a respectable compromise. |
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 9:21pm |
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Yes I have two Supra Comps 84-92 both have been restored and will be for sale in the spring . My intention was to get a 99 or newer Supra Legacy [ open bow comp] until she skied a 2003 196 . She loved the wake so now its not looking good for my open bow. She skied a 200 and they are her favorite . In 09 we looked at a new base model it was in the 40s we have been waiting ever since but the price has never gone down . So the 196 is looking better . I wont get serious until the comps are sold .
 
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Posted: October-23-2017 at 9:42pm |
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That's really the whole answer then ..... got to go with the 196! They are truly awesome slalom boats. |
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