Snob vs Sport

Different hulls. SNOB is still a CB Ski but slightly forward cockpit. Sport is entirely different longer Hull. If skiing is your choice then I’d stick with the Ski.

In that particular year, Sport is 225lbs heavier and 1.5 feet longer than SNOB. No, you could not expect the same wake.

If I recall, your situation is that you already own a wake/surf boat, and a couple of Supra ski boats. The plan is to sell the Supras and buy your wife a Ski Nautique. If that is still the plan, I don't think you should look at anything older than a 97 SN.   In my opinion, for Correct Craft boats before 97, the ski wake will not be any better than the ski wake on your Supras, and, in some cases, maybe worse.

My unsolicited $.02.

BKH

Here is the bottom line as some of you know I have a weakness for old Supras . I have a 84 and a 92 Comp that put out a pretty good wake . The thing I don't like is the closed bow . So I was going to sell both and look for a 99-2000 Supra Legacy [ comp with an open bow] that was the plan until the wife skied a 2003   196. She liked the wake even better than the 92 comp . So I can get the open bow that I like or the wake that she likes. So it looks like the Hunters will be a two Nautique and one Supra family come spring. I am just checking what years will be identical wake wise to the 2003 196.

Although I LOVE my NWZ, it has a soft but tall wake at my wimpy-22@ 32mph. I’d bet taller than it’s competition of the era.

Mike... you've already got two open bows with both brands and the pontoon for those times when you wanna grill out on the water. A closed bow Nautique ain't gonna kill you and we both know ( as well as most of us who know Gail) that she is a Slalom skier by nature and so are most of us who come hang out with you for weekends at a time so go with a 196. That way I can enjoy skiing behind it as much as Gail....I mean I already have my own room at the Hunter Hotel so adding a 196 to the mix would just make it much much nicer!

There is a '99 Sport for sale in Dallas, Tx for $6,500
Needs some Hunter style TLC
Might work!

TRBenj wrote: ‘03 196 = TSC2 (02-05). TSC3 (06-09) is essentially equivalent with the added ability to tune the trick wake with the hydrogate. TSC (97-01) will be very close to as good as the TSC2/3, but not quite as good.

Although there are hardcore slalom peeps who argue that the 97-01 is "better." I'm not
really sure how one defines better between those three designs. Probably because I'm not good enough to know.

BKH

As the years roll forward and the deals on TSC2 boats get better and better, I'd recommend you go there. I notice the TSC2 being better than a TSC, and if I notice then a good slalom skier will REALLY notice. 196 is an awesome slalom boat.

Mike,

There seems to be a large price difference when you move up to the years with Drive By Wire / Zero Off. The boats without Drive By Wire command less money. The hard core skiers want the Zero Off Speed Control. Some folks are pulling perfectly good drive by cable engines and repowering with newer drive by wire systems for Zero Off.

You can add a Z-Box to Star Gazer by Perfect Pass to get a similar feel as Zero Off. Typically, you will need this or Zero Off only if you compete in the course or pull friends that compete. Depending on how long you are going to be keeping the boat, having drive by wire will effect the resell in a good way.   

If you do not need Zero Off, you can find some smoking deals on Drive by Cable. The hardcore skier pass them by sometimes.

I hope this helps,

Donald .

Not sure that adds up, as 15off at 28-29mph is well behind the rooster tail. It’s a factor at the 22-28off, 32-34mph range.

Someone has to be mistaken, as the rooster tail converges closer than 60’ from the boat at that speed on that hull, yes. I’ll send you a pic.

Maybe she didn’t like the wake or you accidentally shortened the rope?

I will have to pretty much agree with Bruce on this. My old partners 01/gt40 Id clip the rooster at -15@29-30 and at -22@30&32 I was right in the rooster. Although fabulous wake I find the rooster on a TSC to be a small hard curb. My 93 at those lengths and speed is bigger but way softer. I’ll lose my man card but the Carbon Pro for those stats is far superior.