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samudj01 
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 Topic: 1990 BFNPosted: August-23-2020 at 8:14am |
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Very nice lookin.
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78 Ski Tique, 72 Skier w/302's, 93 SN w/351 & 17 GS22 w/zr409
Previous - 99 Sport Nautique w/GT40 and 87 Martinique w/351 |
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Fabcon
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Posted: August-21-2020 at 2:55pm |
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Great looking BFN
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1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort
1984 Barefoot Nautique (Parting Out) |
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illiniball2000
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Posted: August-21-2020 at 12:02pm |
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Looks great !
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Beer is my friend
87 Dominique Had 67 Starflite |
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fanofccfan
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Posted: August-21-2020 at 11:50am |
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Nice work on both the boat and the race!
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2004 196 LE Ski 1969 Marauder 19 1978 Ski
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Jonny Quest
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Posted: August-21-2020 at 10:56am |
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Nice BFN. Well done.
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2003 Ski Nautique 206 Limited Previous 2001 Ski Nautique Open Bow 1994 Ski Nautique Open Bow Aqua skiing, ergo sum |
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gun-driver
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Posted: August-21-2020 at 10:17am |
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Nice job and congratulations to the Rudders on their 3rd place.
I’ve been to quite a few of the buckethead races and the competition is legit, there are some FAST teams that practice together all year. The Rudders come from all over the creation and may practice together maybe once or twice and to capture third place is one heck of an accomplishment. My hats off to you gents congrats again. Zach that clip of the beginning of the race shows how the ‘90 was hauling the mail that thing was smoked the field. Great job.
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: August-21-2020 at 8:52am |
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Zach,
Very nice!
 Your man hours paid off. |
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phatsat67
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Posted: August-21-2020 at 8:32am |
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Little update on the 90 for anyone interested.
Lots of work happened this winter. The gel was much worse than it looked and we needed to sand very aggressively down to 320 on the wet sand and the process of bringing it back from that took a while. All I can say is there is a ton more surface area on a BFN vs a 2001 when it comes to sanding. The finished product turned out excellent (Photos below). The graphics that went back on were to mimic the 1990 brochure. If the boat wouldn't have been put back to its headliner condition I likely would have darkened the main lettering up to match the charcoal secondary stripe. I had to bite the bullet and pay 120 bucks for double roll of the correct size pin for the bottom. Luckily, the company that I found that could do it for me used some really nice vinyl and the color match was a 100% match to original. The boat didn't need much on the inside so just a quick buff up on the deck to remove some haze. The NOS 72C has been a great success. I had my doubts about it sitting that long as far as seals and such go but the thing has performed flawlessly. We are around 80-85 hours for the season on it. It's had a big year so far. Its crowning achievement was pulling the Deep Rudders to our first legitimate Buckethead podium finish (3rd place) and our fastest time we've ever turned in for the race.    |
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MrMcD
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 2:30pm |
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I like your test Mule Ken, sure beats installing the tranny bolting everything up and finding out it has a problem out on the water. Nice work.. Safer and quieter than a lawn mower engine.
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 2:09pm |
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VFD IE: "variable frequency drive" Besides speed control, another one of the parameters they all have is timed acceleration and deceleration. |
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phatsat67
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 1:45pm |
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You’d have to do some sort of motor that had speeds available to direct couple. If I’m not incorrect most industrial motors (compressor wise anyhow) are either 1750 or 3250 rpm units. Slam that baby into gear.
Quinner considered a full rebuilt at some point I bet. |
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KENO
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 12:54pm |
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I think that's called a lopitofomy 
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 11:30am |
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Not if they have had a full rebuild. |
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 11:18am |
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Hah Gary, I remember Foxfire Marine & Mike D. Back in the day he did some work on my 77' in that old Quonset Hut. IIRC some years later he ended up at Skipper Buds/Chicago Sea Ray for a stint.
Don't all tranny's still have shafts? |
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KENO
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 8:06am |
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Oh sure, wait till I've stayed up running this thing all night thinking about you and side loading my shaft to see what happens
That just doesn't sound very good, I think Hollywood and Quinner will get all excited reading this |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: March-31-2020 at 7:48am |
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 Thanks for the correction.
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KENO
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 10:46pm |
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Umm................ Pete
What's that thing called in the center of the forward and reverse adapter that supports the input shaft? B/W calls it a needle bearing. There's a whole whopping maybe 2 1/2 inches of beefy shaft in front of that bearing. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 10:25pm |
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If you do make one up like Kens, be careful not to run it for very long. There's no bearing at the front end of the trans so it's not designed for any side loads on the input shaft. I would suggest coupling it directly to the motor. If you want variable speed, then use a 3 phase motor driven by a VFD. Eric always chucked them up in his engine lathe. |
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Riley
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 10:22pm |
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Looks like you put them back on after you took them off. Some I know would have thrown them in the trash. We always had them back in the day. |
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phatsat67
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 10:18pm |
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Thanks Bruce ! Trailer is functionally great but black paint hides a lot of stuff. It’s next on the list as I acquired a lift and canopy for our open spot last fall. It’s still sporting the original nautical rubber flaps so why not. Ken, very envious of your test rig. I was dreaming up something like that with all my thoughts on If this 40 year old unused transmission was going to work ha. |
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KENO
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 9:48pm |
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Alright Larry, your pickin' on my mower driven test rig has forced me to post a picture of my new semi modern transmission test rig.   It runs on some of that magic modern stuff called electricity An old 220 volt 3 HP motor and a couple of pulleys that turn the transmission at roughly 850 rpm. (3 HP is way overkill, but it's what I had) Slap it onto a mount that angles the motor the same as the transmission, use some unistrut for the transmission mounts to slide on and the belt alignment and tension adjustment is a piece of cake. The mounts are some unistrut pieces and angle iron welded together. It's all on a piece of plywood mounted on a Harbor Freight dolly It can test that a transmission goes into Neutral,Forward and Reverse and check operating pressures too. It can run a righty or a lefty transmission by swapping a couple of wires on the motor. It's got clear nylon reinforced hose so I can watch the oil circulate Being really quiet with the electric motor running it, you also hear the noises that the planetary gears make in Reverse And................I can keep my simple mind occupied for hours on end watching the pulleys go round and round and round and ............well you get it Comes in pretty handy to be sure it works before going back in a boat or to see if that used treasure actually works. Can't really test for slippage but if the pressures are good it's most likely gonna be OK. Myself, I think it's a marvel of "backyard hackery" Pete might even agree with the backyard hackery part |
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 9:47pm |
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(I'm expecting the next post from either David or Gary to be, "do you remember just down the road from the filling station was that lady Aunt B, and that nice young boy Opie that lived with her and her nephew Andy?")
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Gary S
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 9:22pm |
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I know that guy. He says last year he wished he just threw 100 bucks in the river instead of buying the permit sticker maybe someone who really needed it could have found it. With the mother in law in and out of the hospital and the river being closed,2 hours were put on the boat last year. Don't know about the Mastercraft stuff or about their service/repair. The couple of times I was there my friend had not started helping them yet,they had no one there to do any of that
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davidg
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 8:43pm |
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Gary....I know that area down by the Cary CC. I have seen several Correct Craft's down in that area. Weren't they more of a service/repair dealership? Also, didn't they also try their hand with MasterCraft after the CC deal?? I may be crossing up my wires, but, I seem to recall talking to one of the brothers, or mabye someone else about it. I always like seeing some dude flying up the river in that area in a flashy red/white Nautique Super Sport. I bet the wake would be real nice for skiing behind that boat!! 
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davidg
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 8:34pm |
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That was Cramer Marine. |
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 7:51pm |
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This was kind of an old thread, so I went back and read the whole thing to refresh. In the intervening years, Ken sent me a video clip of his transmission testing set up. Pretty clever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGeiEI6ywmg |
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Gary S
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 7:49pm |
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Yea that's it Dave. It was in the Quonset hut just north of Kitchen Wholesalers that was torn down a few years ago. His name is Mike Doherty not sure on spelling though. His brother and him live a few houses apart across from the Cary Country Club. They are the 2 with Nautiques if you ever happen to go by. About 1988 when they opened, rumor had it they did it to get themselfs good deals on boats. My friend who got me into CC's worked the summer for them the first year as their mechanic. He grew up in the family gas station business and at the time was the Johnsburg HS auto shop teacher.
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 7:19pm |
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I think that was the one in Fox Lake
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 6:42pm |
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What's that now young man??? What'd he say?? Gary....I know there was one here back in the day, but, I never was there. Was it Foxfire Marine? |
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Riley
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Posted: March-30-2020 at 5:58pm |
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Looking really nice, Zach. Trailer looks really nice, too. So you are a believer in flaps? I'd like to hear more.
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