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Jonny Quest
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Posted: January-17-2018 at 12:21am |
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I've got a tandem axle trailer for my 1994 S.N. I'm refurbishing the trailer -- including a new paint job. While prepping the trailer to take to the paint shop, I see that both fender "back plates" need to be replaced. Don't know if this is the proper term, but the thing I call the "back plate" is mounted to the top part of the dual-axle fender and is a barrier between the fender and the boat. The back plate appears to be plywood and is covered in marine carpet. Approximately 64" long and 12" high. Looks like 1/4" plywood. The shape is not rectangular as the top corners are rounded to match the shape of the fenders. The plywood is disintegrating and the carpet needs to be replaced also. OK, questions: - Do I need to use marine grade plywood for the backing plate? If so, I don't think that my local H.D. carries that. - What about using "diamond" aluminum plate? Yes, I realize that it would not be padded like the plywood / carpet, but any ideas that could make this work? - HDPE marine board/sheet? Thanks for your help. JQ |
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Gary S
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While I have never taken mine apart,my Phoenix has some sort of HDPE . Covered with carpet on the boat side and thru bolted to the fenders, you can see it looking from the wheel side black in color.
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Gary S
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I honestly have no idea Rob,and I'm in no position to check . If I had to guess it would be 3/8,the carpet being wrapped over between it and the fender also.
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Gary S
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8122pbrainard
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Rob,
Marine ply isn't needed. You can use an exterior rated ply or take a look at this recent post regarding the base material used for seats.
Marine rated ply and exterior are the same with the exception that the center ply veneers in marine have no ply voids. |
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Go with 1/2'' PVC it will cost a little more but will never rot .
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bkhallpass
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I've replaced mine twice in 18 years. First time I used some scrap ply. Second time I had to buy a sheet. Second time I slapped some CPES on it, only because I had it sitting around. I wouldn't buy CPES just for the project. Ply is cheap and the project is easy.
I just used the old ones for a template. Helped a friend cut some for a trailer where we we did not have the old pieces. Made a quick cardboard template. BKH |
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Jonny Quest
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Gary: That is what mine looked like when new. Thanks for posting the pic. I found some HDPE sheets locally, but they are $100. Pete's suggestion of exterior plywood is the least expensive route. If I go with CPES coated plywood, I'm not that far away from the HDPE sheets. The HDPE sheet is black and I may not even need the carpet padding... JQ |
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$100 in HDPE for both tandem fenders is a deal.
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Riley
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Does the tire side of this board usually have carpet on it?
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Knowing what brand of trailer this is would be helpful. As would pictures. So many variables.
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Riley
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In my case it's a Boatmate and the board has carpet on the boat side and inside the wheel well which is causing a mal function..
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bkhallpass
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No. On the three Tandems I have owned, the carpet is wrapped around the edge and stapled, but doe not cover the entire backside. Of the three, only one was painted black. I just shoot little spray paint on the back when replacing or re-carpeting. BKH |
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Gary S
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Mine only has carpet on the boat side but it does overlap on the other side that is held in place by the fender. The thru bolts have some sort of plastic cap that snaps on to the head of the screw
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Jonny Quest
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Tim: Manufacturer: DHL Enterprises (aslo known as DHM Enterprises) Picture is the twin sister of my trailer. Note black fender back plate on far side of trailer. |
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I found a vendor here in town that stocked 3/8" HDPE sheets (color was black). He was willing to cut pieces for me so that I didn't have to buy the entire 4 X 8 sheet. He cut two 63" X 12" rectangles for me. Total cost was $64. Nice score.
All I need to do is to cut a quarter radius on each side of the sheets to match the shape of the fenders. Now I to find some carpet to glue on to the HDPE sheets. Almost there... JQ |
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Which brings up the next potential issue with HDPE. It doesn't like to cut easily and more or less tears. You can try a jig saw with a new coarse blade but I'd suggest setting up the router on a radius beam (or template) and using a carbide cutter. |
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Thanks, Pete for the tip. I'll give it a try.
I'll smooth out the radius cut with a belt sander. JQ |
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The HDPE doesn't like to be sanded ether!! Don't worry about it too much since the cut will be covered by the carpet. Report back on how it turns out.
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Jonny Quest
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Temperamental stuff, this HDPE...doesn't cut well, doesn't sand well, doesn't play well with others... |
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That's why I suggested the router! |
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Try heating a metal tool with handle (trowel or putty knife) to the point where it will melt the plastic. Then you can deburr the rough spots cause by the sawing issues.
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Anything you experiment with do it on the cut off pieces first!
I wouldn't bother with the carpet unless you crash into them A LOT. |
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Jonny Quest
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Roger that. I will make some practice cuts on the HDPE to be cut off. Agreed with the "no carpet" plan. My on/off trailering skills are not so poor as that! JQ |
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