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    Posted: July-04-2018 at 2:43am
I have a pair of new Airguide speedometers as well as new 'ballast tubes'...I'm debating on going with either the perfect pass GPS speedometer, the whole perfect pass system or try to keep it as original as possible. I've been using the tach for way too many years and it never seems to be correct in relation to mph
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Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

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I think they're after those new speedos!   


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Why not both options? One Airguide and one Precision Star GPS speedo. That's what I have in my 1994 SNOB. Redundancy -- belt & suspenders.

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Why not convert the original airguide(s) to gps? Best of both worlds- precise and original (appearance).
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That’s an option for sure
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I'm still debating what to do...I definitely prefer the original appearance vs some of the GPS ones I've looked at. Does the poster from 2013 or so still do the speedometer conversion to GPS with the original ones?
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http://www.nauticlaugic.com/airglide.html
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JQ does yours say Airguide or Nautiques above the pointer.
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Go with your new Airguides with the GPS installed, Keeps the look original
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I'm thinking that's probably the route I'm going to go....I still need to check out the link.
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I wouldn’t gut those brand new ones if you’re going GPS.
If the ones you have are faded I’d get new faces from here http://www.classicboatwork.com/classicparts/gauges/airguide/agr/agr.html and gut the old ones
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Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

JQ does yours say Airguide or Nautiques above the pointer.




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Originally posted by Jonny Quest Jonny Quest wrote:

Why not both options? One Airguide and one Precision Star GPS speedo. That's what I have in my 1994 SNOB. Redundancy -- belt & suspenders. JQ
   That's what I did in the Barefoot. The PrecisionStar is good for low speed accuracy and provides a clock which doesn't need resetting. The looks are not original but match fairly well and are very useful.
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I like the precision star I run both and I like the clock and the handy dandy compass.(you know when driving in the pouring rain and you can't see a thing) Oh not to mention trip meter is easy to figure the fuel burn later...
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My immediate plan is to just retrofit my existing gauges with the nauticlaugic GPS system and the new faces this fall or spring. The existing ones must have known something was up since one worked all weekend and the other one mustered it's way up to 15-20 most of the time. As far as low speed accuracy where does the GPS retrofit struggle with accuracy, is it decent around 20mph?
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Under 5mph and over 45mph.

If your gauges sometimes work, then the issue you’re having isn’t with the gauges. Consider not scrapping/cannibalizing the internals when you convert. Send me a PM for details.
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Do you know if the conversions will work for an older airguide? I have a 77 Ski Tique, the website didn’t list these. Curious if anyone has tried it.   My airguide hasn’t worked in a few years, I would love to fill the holes in and remove the pitot
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Originally posted by Mille1sj Mille1sj wrote:

Do you know if the conversions will work for an older airguide?


Yes, they can do the conversion to the older Air Guides, but I have not done it myself.
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Originally posted by Donald80SN Donald80SN wrote:

Originally posted by Mille1sj Mille1sj wrote:

Do you know if the conversions will work for an older airguide?


Yes, they can do the conversion to the older Air Guides, but I have not done it myself.


Thanks Donald, I watched the video on how to convert it to GPS. Seems pretty straight forward.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Under 5mph and over 45mph.


Over 45? I thought they read accurately up to 85 with the correct graphics?
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Under 5mph and over 45mph.


Are you saying they are not accurate between 5 and 45?
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Originally posted by redritereturn redritereturn wrote:

where does the GPS retrofit struggle with accuracy?
Under 5mph and over 45mph.

(On a standard 50mph face).
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Originally posted by man0seven man0seven wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Under 5mph and over 45mph.


Are you saying they are not accurate between 5 and 45?


The old water pressure driven Air Guides are very accurate. As accurate as you will need.
They are so accurate I would not consider going GPS driven in an older boat.

GPS comes into play if you are looking for speed control for skiing or other bells and whistles like clocks and compasses.

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Reasonably accurate (when properly adjusted), yes. Reliable? That will depend on your water conditions. Weedy or debris filled waterways will cause issues with pitot systems. They also cannot compensate for current if you care about speed over land (slalom course in a river, for instance).

There is certainly a place for a $200 gps conversion in an older boat. Originality (appearance), reliability and accuracy are among the benefits, as is simplicity (removing the pitot, tubing, etc) if you so desire. Not all disciplines require speed control, and a converted analog gauge compliments those that do... at a much lower price point.
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I saw this topic was active again...I did get one of them to work fairly accurately this summer, at least 90% of the time. I am planning repairing my dash pod this winter and am going to look into fixing the originals and see how that goes before going the GPS route.
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