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    Posted: September-08-2018 at 8:53pm
Our 89 BFN 454 is running temperature between 190 - 200 in the lake. Thermostat installed is a 170 degree. (I have not pulled thermostat yet) I pulled the impeller and it looks great. Also checked all hoses for tightness. Removed the water strainer re- wrapped both input and output fittings with Teflon tape. Ran boat and let it get to 190 on gauge. I used a IR Thermostat and took several readings around the block. See below. Could I have a failing sensor or a true overheating problem.

150 - Thermostat Housing,    140-Intake,   140 - R Head front, 150 - L head front,
140 - R head rear, 145 - L head rear, 115 - intake, 150- Block front
130 - Block back.   155 - Block by sensor
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With the readings you took, it says that your temperature gauge or sensor is reading high and you don't have an overheating problem..

If you put your hand on a 190 degree thermostat housing it will hurt/burn

Put it on a 150 degree housing and it'll feel pretty hot.

That'll help tell you if the IR gun seems to be giving true temperatures

You could also aim the gun at a pan of boiling water and see if it reads about 212 degrees to check it.
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Thanks......Would it help to install a 150 degree thermostat? Currently running a 170.
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Originally posted by tbeard tbeard wrote:

Thanks......Would it help to install a 150 degree thermostat? Currently running a 170.

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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

With the readings you took, it says that your temperature gauge or sensor is reading high and you don't have an overheating problem..


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Thanks Pete.......I could not find the required temperature for a 454 in the PCM manual. Does anyone know what is recommended by PCM?
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The open cooling systems (lake Water) should have had a 140 thermostat factory.
The closed cooling systems ran higher temps. I was told Marine engines ran the cooler thermostats to reduce corrosion in the block.

The later fuel injected engines also ran higher temps, 160 mainly.
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Thanks Mark......My Thermostat is a 170 installed by previous owner. I pulled it today and did the hot/cool water test and thermostat worked great. Re-torqued all hose clamps and I did find a raw water pump input hose that was not tight! Will test it again tomorrow.
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