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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

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You should be getting at least another 1000 RPM. What prop (dia. and pitch) is on the boat? Have you set the timing? Setting the timing on the old flat heads is easy. All you need is two people. One at the helm giving it full throttle and the other at the distributor. You turn the distributor till you get max RPM and back it off slightly.


Will check props when back up at the lake later this month. I did try to adjust timing as described, but no higher than 2500.


Thought I would give an update on the 56-Atom. After a great first summer of cruising at sub-rpms of 2500 which was good-enough, I went back to tinkering on things. We checked everything and applied all recommendations from the forum group, change of props, timing, fuel intakes, air, carburetor linkages, jets...thank you!

On the day that was to be the last run of the season...met an older gentleman at the boat launch who offered to take a look. He immediately ID the issue as a weak breaker arm spring. I adjusted it with a slight bend via needle nose pliers and we ran it up to 3000rpms. Adjusted timing (which is pretty fun with my daughter at the helm running wide open down the lake with one hand on the ski pole and the other on the distributor cap) ...with no improvement.

Back at the garage...replaced breaker arm spring, adjusted points .020 and talked my wife into doing one more run for the season...and to our excitement, we watched the RPMs tac up to 3400 which is max per manual. A wave runner clocked us at 32 mph. Felt exhilarating and hoped the old plywood would hold together!

Have put her to bed for the season and look forward to making her "more original" for some shows next summer as well as getting to a reunion or two.   I think the FB link covers most of the steps in the restoration that began in 2012.

Thanks to the CCF community, you have been a major part of getting the 1956 back up to speed!



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You should be getting at least another 1000 RPM. What prop (dia. and pitch) is on the boat? Have you set the timing? Setting the timing on the old flat heads is easy. All you need is two people. One at the helm giving it full throttle and the other at the distributor. You turn the distributor till you get max RPM and back it off slightly.


Will check props when back up at the lake later this month. I did try to adjust timing as described, but no higher than 2500.

Any one near the Silver Lake Sand Dunes area from July 27-Aug 4th are welcome to stop by for a beer, some tinkering on the engine, a ride on the lake and I have a Jeep we can hit the dunes with.
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No pictures of your boat from the top of the sand dunes? Silver Lake is beautiful. Good luck with the Atom.


Ah to be 19 again at Silver Lake with a dune buggy and a Bultaco Alpina. Seems so long ago.....
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Thanks for re-posting these...almost forgot about the first fire-up day! All that excitement over one cylinder...
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Boat update:
1956 Atom was launched last week with several days of cruising around Silver Lake, Michigan. We even pulled up my 18 yr old son up on 2 and dropped 1). More adjustments I am sure will come as she tops out at 2500 RPM's at this time. Thanks for all the help on this project.

No pictures of your boat from the top of the sand dunes? Silver Lake is beautiful. Good luck with the Atom.
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Boat update:
1956 Atom was launched last week with several days of cruising around Silver Lake, Michigan. We even pulled up my 18 yr old son up on 2 and dropped 1). More adjustments I am sure will come as she tops out at 2500 RPM's at this time. Thanks for all the help on this project.

No pictures of your boat from the top of the sand dunes? Silver Lake is beautiful. Good luck with the Atom.
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John,
You should be getting at least another 1000 RPM. What prop (dia. and pitch) is on the boat? Have you set the timing? Setting the timing on the old flat heads is easy. All you need is two people. One at the helm giving it full throttle and the other at the distributor. You turn the distributor till you get max RPM and back it off slightly.


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Boat update:
1956 Atom was launched last week with several days of cruising around Silver Lake, Michigan. We even pulled up my 18 yr old son up on 2 and dropped 1). More adjustments I am sure will come as she tops out at 2500 RPM's at this time. Thanks for all the help on this project.
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Thanks Pete,

That would explain why a closer look reveals turn signals, heater/AC ect.... looks like it car off a car panel.

John,
It's not a panel off a car. It's a Stewart Warner marine panel.

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Sorry, I misunderstood your post. I was too focused on the gauge panel. Yes, the fuse panel could have been made for a car but as mentioned, the gauge panel is a Stewart Warner.


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Thanks Pete,

That would explain why a closer look reveals turn signals, heater/AC ect.... looks like it car off a car panel.
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John,
The fuse panel is not original. They weren't fusing any electrics back then. Why do you feel it's unsafe? If anything, it makes the boat safer. Keep it.

BTW, for those of you who are ACBS "naysayers", adding fusing is NOT a point deduction in a judged show.


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staying with 6-volt system and wondering if "original" fuse panel is safe or should I upgrade?
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Attempting a facebook link:
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I'll attempt to share a few links of the motor running: if this does not work I will attempt to share a facebook link

First fire up: Pardon the excitement
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First Float running one 1 cyl
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Thanks for the info. I will look around and change out for the spring start-up. Any reason to add the zink additive now for the winter storage?

I appreciate all of the wisdom, care and attention this forum shares as I wish not to damage this piece of family history...that also needs to pull some skiers as it was built to do!

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I add ZDDP additive whenever I use conventional motor oil in a flat-tappet engine. I'm told that Shell Rotella oil marked "Diesel and Marine" has adequate zinc to protect older cams and lifters. I have not looked it up.
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Mobile1 30.

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I went searching for ZDDP levels in Mobile1 30 weight and can't find Mobile1 made in any straight weight's. Are you sure it's straight 30? Maybe I didn't search enough? Anyway, you are probably going by recommended oil that's in a manual or on a name plate. Keep in mind that info is very dated back in the days when multi viscosity oils weren't invented yet. The benefits of multi viscosity oils have been proven and they will benefit old engines too.


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Mobile1 30. I’ll change it out before starting in the spring. Thanks!
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This is a link to the "first run" Not sure if it will be viewable but thought I would give it a try.

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Pete, since I had the motor out on the cart I just drained it out of the lower drain plug and then rocked it back and forth/side to side getting the last of the old oil out.
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What oil did you use? It's VERY important that you use an oil with high ZDDP content. Modern oils do not have it anymore. I use Valvolene VR1 20-50 but there are others with the ZDDP levels your flat tappet engine needs. If you didn't use an oil with ZDDP, do NOT run the engine.


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I just may have not tightened the oil plug tight after we did the oil change when out of the boat.

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When you did the oil change, did you suck the oil with a vacuum extractor? It's easier than draining with the drain plug. Also, it's typical to open up the trans cover and suck it as well. You can get almost an additional pint out of it.


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The boat ramp was a pretty steep one and the gasket is old and brittle, on my list to replace. That was most likely it. When I checked the engine recently it was dead center on engine case that is now sitting level on a cart. I just may have not tightened the oil plug tight after we did the oil change when out of the boat.
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There isn't an engine that doesn't leak some oil at one time or another. The older the era of the engine, the worse they leak. I have a thought and that's when you put the boat in the water, the aft end of it and the engine were low which would cause the oil level to go high aft. When you had the inspection plate off the trans, what was the condition of the gasket? When you found the oil on the engine, was it aft?


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Pete, thanks for the quick reply!    I had pulled the engine after winterizing, as part of my shaft alignment project. I took a quick look under the engine and sure enough I had drips accumulated under engine block. Perhaps it did the same while in boat this past year.

Problems getting engine started? I wish I could post a video of it finally firing up! Had to have starter rebuilt and after figuring the throttle body, engine idle, and choke out she fired up after a hour of tinkering around. I floated it and water pump pulled great etc...Then I realized I had plug wires wrong and only running on 1 cyl. Reordered and fired up all four cyl with great amazement from me and my 16 year old what all 70 horses sound and feel like.! Just need to check cables and get the 6volt to turn it over.
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