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Great News Todd. Go easy the first 5 minutes will ya!
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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Great news Todd. Glad to hear you can get back out there and fulfill your duties as president of the "pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason" club.

Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I see Larry’s a member of the “I pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason club”. I am your club president.


That actually carries some bitter sweet memories for you, well maybe just bitter, as I went back and reread this thread to be reminded that it was ball 5 that ate your lunch.

Let's be careful out there.

As some of you may recall, I got a new to me ski for this year. It has a leather lace up boot, which I have never had before. Thinking of Todd and Val Karras, I was a little nervous about it not coming off and doing something similar to my ankle. I was pleased to learn after a couple OTFs that this ski will pop off as needed, so I am feeling a little better about it.

Go get it Todd.


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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Wow glad you are recovering. I’ve never seen a waterskiing injury like that. How fast were you traveling


I was at centerline so the fastest point of the arc, boat was running 32.
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Wow glad you are recovering. I’ve never seen a waterskiing injury like that. How fast were you traveling
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Todd, that is great news, the whole rehab experience can be so long and frustrating. Has to feel good to get the "all-clear"!

I think about your injury, and others, not that I'm worried and skiing differently, just comes to mind at times when I do an almost OTF. Of course always happens when I'm tired so trying to a bit more solid physically from start to finish of the run.
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Great news Todd. Glad to hear you can get back out there and fulfill your duties as president of the "pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason" club.

Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

I see Larry’s a member of the “I pull my arms in excessively at 5 ball for no apparent reason club”. I am your club president.


That actually carries some bitter sweet memories for you, well maybe just bitter, as I went back and reread this thread to be reminded that it was ball 5 that ate your lunch.

Let's be careful out there.

As some of you may recall, I got a new to me ski for this year. It has a leather lace up boot, which I have never had before. Thinking of Todd and Val Karras, I was a little nervous about it not coming off and doing something similar to my ankle. I was pleased to learn after a couple OTFs that this ski will pop off as needed, so I am feeling a little better about it.

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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

BOOYAH!!!! This guy just got the all clear from the doctor to go back to skiing! Longest 8.5 months of my life.



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BOOYAH!!!! This guy just got the all clear from the doctor to go back to skiing! Longest 8.5 months of my life.
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Tib - Fib fracture. Taking an EMT course, which is part of the reason I haven't been on the site, much. We learned a lot about that stuff. I guess it's pretty common for both bones to break together, if one is going to go.

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Dang, dude. You have my sympathies. Those staples and incisions will leave some killer railroad track scars. Best wishes.

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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

You'll have to put that up on some V blocks and check the run out but it looks pretty straight from here.   


Yup, the runout shouldn't exceed .003 inches.

Keep moving forward Todd.


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You'll have to put that up on some V blocks and check the run out but it looks pretty straight from here.   Keep the good spirits man you're doing great.
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I'm doing great thanks for asking. About ten days ago I had the surgical splint removed along with the approximate 65 staples. Have a hard cast now and an all terrain knee scooter which has totally improved my mobility around the house and yard. No pain but I feel like a house arrest inmate with an ankle bracelet. Going back on the 19th for another X-ray and maybe a new cast, maybe a walking boot.


And keeping up with my tradition I couldn't turn down a purple cast.
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how about an update Todd?



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OMGosh...I hurt the whole time I read this thread.

Hoping you heal quickly and smoothly.



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Something I found comical:
My son has been at a different hospital this whole time. When I got to see him on my second day out from hospital. It was me in my wheel chair withthe walker in tow, wifey poo, and my young but 70/71 year old father in law who’s in great shape and looks good. To get into the hospital you have to go through security, cancer causing metal detectors, TSA has to search whatever cavities youmay have etc. We get through all that and the security guard opens up the walker and hands it to my father in law, attempts to help him and says “here’s your walker sir” I couldn’t stop laughing.
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One great thing is the PT nurse that comes to the house said the surgeon has a 0% infection rate so far. I would think a lot of that is because of the hospital too, not solely the surgeon. And I’ll be honest, I’ve always doubted this particular hospital and was very hesitant to go there but I knew my friend wouldn’t steer me wrong with the surgeon.
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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:


1. The area where there’s no screws because the tibia is in too many pieces. I asked why not put hose clamps around that area. Well, they do in extreme cases but there are blood vessels that run along the bone/in the bone and clamping it kills blood flow.

2. Due to the contours of the plates I assumed it was a bendable hurricane strap essentially. He said no, the plate is unbendable. 90% of the people have the exact same contour of that part of the leg so the plates are generically made.

3. I’m still unclear on whether the screws get loose in the bone or if the bone calcifies around the screws but the screws are essentially indexed to the plate so once they bottom out when being tightened they click and lock into place and will never back out of the plate.


That's the beauty of the plate - it gives stability without the need to deal with the fragments. The hoses clamp concept is used more in situations like barrel straps (they are called "cerclage wire" BTW). Plates are much better for initial weight-bearing..... and you DON'T want that plate to be bendable!

Our screws don't lock into the plate...... backing out isn't the issue, it is bone dying or becoming infected around the screw holes. Fast drills with worn bits burn bone. Metal under the skin LOVES to get infected especially around open wounds. They will keep looking for issues..... the vast majority of the time, all goes well and plates and screws stay put without issues.
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Walker races. There may be some entertainment value in that! Naturally there will have to be alcohol involved. Good luck on the hip!!

I found a preview of the race ..........

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Hate to hear about injuries like this.   Hope you heal up soon. I have several screws in my ankle. Once it healed I haven't had any problems. A buddy of mine snapped his femur in half behind my boat and he was snow skiing six months later.

As far as binding systems go I have the Goode "velcro" system with Wileys boots. I don't course ski anymore so I hardly ever fall and have never had the bindings release but potentially they should release during a bad fall. Maybe others have had some experience and can comment.

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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

The area where there’s no screws because the tibia is in too many pieces.


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Todd -

Sorry to see this. Heal quick and listen to the PT instructions. It makes or breaks the repair outcome.

The repair looks really good! The doc even used a long cancellous bone screw where he should (angled long one with different thread pitch). It is a very interesting and versatile plate that was used on the tibia. (Ours are a little smaller). I'm sure you'll be tap-dancing on it in a few months.......

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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Had an educational conversation with the representative of the company who makes the hardware, he was present during surgery and called me this morning. Some of the interesting things I learned:

1. The area where there’s no screws because the tibia is in too many pieces. I asked why not put hose clamps around that area. Well the do in extreme cases but there’s blood vessels that run along the bone/in the bone and clamping it kills blood flow.

2. Due to the contours of the plates I assumed it was a bendable hurricane strap essentially. He said no, the plate is unbendable. 90% of the people have the exact same contour of that part of the leg so the plates are generically made.

3. I’m still unclear on whether the screws get loose in the bone or if the bone calcifies around the screws but the screws are essentially indexed to the plate so once they bottom out when being tightened they click and lock into place and will never back out of the plate.

4. The bottom of the tib and fib becomes another bone, lateral malleolous and medial malleolous which I broke as well. Those bones are what keeps your ankle from turning upward left or right. Hence, why I could see the bottom of my ski pointing to the sky while it was still on my foot.


yep, the screws can indeed back out. depends how hard you go after the therapy.. My daughter shattered her elbow once and two screws backed out so far they damn near poked back out of the skin. her's were supposed to be taken out eventually so maybe they didn't use the red lock tight on those???
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Idk how people with a hip or knee replacement walk on it within 24 hours. That’s insane. Wouldn’t be much of a fair fight, by the time CQ goes under the knife I’ll have plenty of walker practice. I just need more stamina now, the story of my life. Good luck CQ.
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Dang Todd, so sorry to hear about this :( One of my scariest falls was my front released and the back didn't, doh. Hurt for a while but no break, I was lucky. Ditched the back boot for a toe plate and never looked back.
I am going on the carving table myself next month, right hip replacement Dec 20, Left on Feb 28, I should come down to FLA and we can have walker races.
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Dang Todd, so sorry to hear about this :( One of my scariest falls was my front released and the back didn't, doh. Hurt for a while but no break, I was lucky. Ditched the back boot for a toe plate and never looked back.
I am going on the carving table myself next month, right hip replacement Dec 20, Left on Feb 28, I should come down to FLA and we can have walker races.
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Larry I would only consider a release system such as the MOB from now on and I would say the same for you. I used to feel release setups were for short line skiers. Man if I could go back a week ago..... I somehow slipped out at peak acceleration. As if I got lean locked and couldn’t transition for the pre turn. I know for certain the Ski was always in front of me. I keep thinking about one of my ski partners. He’s upper 59 maybe 60, won some national titles in the 90’s and he skis mid -39 with a Reflex black Hardshell bolted to a plate bolted to the ski, no release mechanism. He stands zero chance of pulling out in a fall. For years we’ve tried talking him into a release, even bought him one but he refuses.
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Wow Todd. What a mess. Sorry that this happened, but glad you seem to be on the mend. I guess we all know there are risks, but we certainly dont think something like this will happen. I cant help but think of Steve Kutsch and what happened to him every time I suit up. Interesting cause, that that rear foot came out, allowing ski to "Helicopter" the front foot.
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pretty harmless compared to a fall at the acceleration point across the wake. Here is a spill by one of the New England guys, but I dont know if it was Brad, Ken, Tim or Keith. It was one of them as we were out as a group at Brad's one night.



This is from Keith's "northeast amateurs" video on youtube he did back in 07 or 08.   I'm glad I popped out. One of the skis I test drove lately had the hard shell boot with the release. I took a spill on that and the boot popped off, which is a good idea. I think about this stuff as I ponder new bindings and ski.

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Tod,

Then in the hardware dept. plenty of Tapcons.






Ya—hopefully the doc used titanium and didn’t shop at Pete’s to make a few extra bucks!


This created a visual in my sick mind......6-8 Doctors dressed in green scrubs, in the HD, "Pete's Aisle", all patiently waiting to speak to Pete to purchase screws and straps.....

The Tapcon picture I used was chosen because it's the stainless version!


It was the galvanized strapping that had me most concerned!
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Then in the hardware dept. plenty of Tapcons.





Ya—hopefully the doc used titanium and didn’t shop at Pete’s to make a few extra bucks!


This created a visual in my sick mind......6-8 Doctors dressed in green scrubs, in the HD, "Pete's Aisle", all patiently waiting to speak to Pete to purchase screws and straps.....

The Tapcon picture I used was chosen because it's the stainless version!


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