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    Posted: March-12-2019 at 4:54pm
This is what came on the trailer, which I'm in the process of rehabbing. Seems like a bogus design, was this common on dual axle Ramlins? There's a bracket welded onto the trailer. The jack is welded to its own bracket, and the two bolt together on the sides. The whole thing, when tight, is somewhat kicked out off angle which is really unsettling. There's a single bolt holding it all together, on which the jack is supposed to rotate... but no bearing, all metal on metal. So when it's all tight, it doesn't want to rotate. I disassembled it and it all seems intact, so I threw some grease in there and it's moderately better.

Thinking I should just junk this thing and replace it with a basic Fulton jack, but I'm not sure anything will fit that bracket. Should I just put a new jack on the opposite side where there's nothing welded on? Cut this one off?

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That’s really jacked up. Wish these manufacturers stopped jacking off and made better jacks. That’s a real typical Fulton swing jack, no bearing, one bolt. Bracket is different. Normally the same jack design has a bigger flange and u bolts bolt it to the trailer.
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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

That’s really jacked up. Wish these manufacturers stopped jacking off and made better jacks. That’s a real typical Fulton swing jack, no bearing, one bolt. Bracket is different. Normally the same jack design has a bigger flange and u bolts bolt it to the trailer.


It's actually not made by Fulton, it's BullDog Trailer Jacks. I'm guessing not OEM. What should I do with it?
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They’re all same *************** design and don’t think there’s really an OEM. Ramlin just put a Bulldog on mine. WD40, annual grease and let it ride is my suggestion.
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Years ago I had a trailer jack that did the same thing (not sure of brand). Didn't like it but just lived with it . Unsettling about sums it up .
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Originally posted by Faceplant Faceplant wrote:

Years ago I had a trailer jack that did the same thing (not sure of brand). Didn't like it but just lived with it . Unsettling about sums it up .


Well, yeah... just finished ordering a small fortune in replacement parts for this trailer, so I'm just going to leave this jack alone as long as it's functional.

On the way from etrailer: new actuator, two new drum / hub assemblies and associated free-backing drum brakes including all associated bearings/races, and two sets of pre-greased / bearings-installed idler hubs (decide to remove the drum brakes off the rear axle and go with regular hubs, just doesn't seem necessary and the cost / maintenance is a pain). This after redoing the plywood steps, all new wiring and lights, fabricating new front fenders.

Thought I might be able to save the existing brake components... after I mighty struggle to remove the brake reservoir cap on the existing actuator (big red flag), I looked inside to see that it was just all rust as far as I could see. Rust flakes everywhere, not a drop of brake fluid. And a test removal of one of the drum brakes confirmed the same, it basically fell apart in my hand, bearing felt gritty, grease looked terrible... Ugh. Safety first.

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It's a goofball interface that about nobody but Ramlin used. Most of your swinging jacks use a large flange with a snap ring that holds the jack to the backing plate, This uses the bolt style (which usually ends up getting bent etc).

If you poke around you used to be able to find a center bolt style jack that you could remove the backing plate and install the Ramlin box deal onto the jack. Generally that is an interfaced used by very cheap replacement jacks and if you find one it's usually poor quality.

Most guys just use a universal and move it back a little.

I did see a jack like that last time I was at N3 on a new Boatmate. MFG by Dutton-Lainson Company. I browsed their website and did not see said jack offered so it must be a custom commission for Boatmate. Had the box style mount but I don't know if the dimensions and bolt centers are the same.
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Tyler,
Here's the Fulton jack that Zach is talking about. Note the large snap ring at the pivot that gives the jack a large bearing surface. I happen to have one on one of my trailers. Works great and no jacked jack.



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Originally posted by DockDoc DockDoc wrote:

[QUOTE=Faceplant]Well, yeah... just finished ordering a small fortune in replacement parts for this trailer, so I'm just going to leave this jack alone as long as it's functional. On the way from etrailer: new actuator, two new drum / hub assemblies and associated free-backing drum brakes including all associated bearings/races, and two sets of pre-greased / bearings-installed idler hubs (decide to remove the drum brakes off the rear axle and go with regular hubs,


Check out Johnson RV Surplus for trailer parts. That is who I use. (maybe for future reference)
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