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jterr
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Couple requests as to where to find, both are for the 79.
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Update: Buffed out rear and new teak oil:
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Couple shots after Sprayed 2nd coat. Was gonna put another but Rusto peeps said as I already had a coat of primer and 1 soso rolled paint coat , might should wait to get all fully cured.
Looks good to me and a 100% better than before |
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John,
From Rustoleum data sheet I linked above: ". For brush or roller application, apply full strength. In hot weather, thin with 5% mineral spirits to maintain a wet edge. For best results on large, smooth surfaces, apply using a short nap or foam roller cover followed immediately by leveling off with the tip of a brush." What was the temp when you were painting? Were you out of the sun? Maintaining a wet edge is always applying paint from the area that's still wet. If you apply paint into an area that's partially dry, you will get lap, roller and brush marks. I think that "tech" you've been talking to needs to come over to your house and show you how it's done! |
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No was told to use straight from can if rolling. Not sure what you mean by wet edge.
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John
I feel the video (link I posted) from Jamestown ,may have been deceiving. The guy in the video appears to be tipping rather aggressively and that's not how it's done. Tipping as the name implies is a very gentle movement across the top of the paint film just to knock off the stipple from the roller however, you do need enough paint film to do this. Once tipped off, the paint should self level. Did you reduce the paint any and how much? Did you have any problems maintaining a wet edge? . . |
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Been looking over my paint job and still don't understand how I got "brush strokes" when I used a foam applicator.
It will be another week or so before I can do any painting so let me ask. What is better in the roll and tip method foam or reg. brush?? Is there a certain kind of roller, I used what I thought was a premium foam roller?? If I remember when I applied the paint the roller didn't seem to be holding alot of paint. In all the videos I watched theirs seemed to put more paint on and when you tip it actually smooths out. I don't want to spray but if that is what it takes so be it, so hope y'all can give me some help if you have done this before. Thanks JT |
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John,
Just in case you haven't seen the tech sheet for the top side, here it is It may help especially the data on spraying. Note for reduction for conventional spray you use Zylene. Don't use mineral spirts since it's not "fast" enough. Regarding how heavy the coating is, there's also a warning on the can label of not exceeding 4 mils wet. I suspect over the 4 mils, you get solvent entrapment. That's when the surface skins over enough so the solvent in the paint can't evaporate. |
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I see hope in the bottom of the paint tray, need more paint.
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8122pbrainard
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John, Did you tip ? Doesn't sound like you did. What do the instructions or their tech say about the wet film thickness recommended? Do you have anything to check the wet filf thickness? Here's the gauge: |
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Not so much the gloss as I want it smooth and it isn't. I really think that I didn't put enough paint on roller.
Oh well I talked to my boat builder friend (and as I thought), said wait till fully cured, wet sand and put on another coat; then cure, wet sand and buff. Of coarse due to raining here for the next week or so it will be fully cured |
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John,
Hopefully spraying will improve the gloss but, I have a strong feeling it will not. I too have used Rustoleum for years and years and so long, I can still remember when you could smell the fish/whale oil. They make a good product but for marine it would be way down at the bottom of my list. If you're not happy, I suggest going to the Pettit Ezpoxy mentioned. I sure hope you have removed all that blue painters tape before the paint fully cured. If not, you may have a problem. 3M fine line tape is the only way to go. |
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Here are some pics
Repairs Primer Ist Coat Paint-Rolled Not as glossy as I thought so will wait few days sand and then spray |
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That primer must have alot of extra stuff in it as 1 qt of it is over a 1 lb heavier than the paint
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I asked Rustoleum Tech if primer needed to be sanded and they said not necessary, so I will tip.. Thanks |
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John,
Is the primer a sanding primer? If so, it can be sanded lightly If the primer isn't, then tipping won't hurt. You will end up with a smoother surface. . |
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Quick question if anyone knows. When putting on primer do I also use the tipping method??
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Pete I didn't find at a center I found it at the Rustoleum site. I've been using these paints for years and never had a problem . Now this will be the first time I've done a boat; so I will post the results and see how it holds up. As for as priming they say it would be better to prime so I'll be using their primer also. If weather holds up should be ready by end of week if I can ever fix all these cracks. Thanks for the info |
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John, You're shopping too much at the home centers rather than a marine supply. "topside" is a marine term used for paints above the waterline. Rustoleum copied it! Here's the topside catagory at Jamestown What does Rustoleum say for priming? |
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That's the name TopSide by Rustoleum |
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John, I'm curious
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After watching video might just try the roller /tipping as the only big area will be the nose.
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John, Then before you do any painting, I suggest watching this video What did you get for topside paint? |
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John,
Many have had good results with rolling and tipping. It's not the same as spraying but with two people (one rolling and the other tipping) it can look very close. For topside paint, I highly recommend Pettit Easypoxy. Did your friend tip? |
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I'm spraying mine on, FYI |
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Yes John, I'm sure it looks "great". |
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Gonna try Top Side paint made for boats. I was told by another friend he used this stuff on his boat and looks great. He even put it on with a paint roller , I swa a picture and I couldn't tell.
Will post pics as I'm still fixing the 100's of cracks Now this is a pain still have to drill some more on some as you still see the crack |
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I tried a Epoxy Enamel but it didn't have any UV stuff and not made for temps over 200 and NO WATER
Not a big deal as I only did the one side and because I used wrong primer it came right off with a razor blade, Just wasted $$$$ |
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