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    Posted: August-13-2019 at 8:10am
I finally got a marine distributor for my 351-W. Now I have a few questions.
1) no vacuum advance on this "Billet" distributor. What should I set the idle timing at?
2) Where should the advance curve be set?
@ 2500 rpm - 24 deg, 16 deg, 7 deg
3) Where should the advance limiters be set?
12 deg, 16 deg, 20 deg

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Glad you survived the storm

If it's a Pertronix distributor which it sounds like it is, put it in just as it's set

Go with 10 degrees initial and you should have about 34 total with a good curve
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FYI. I called Pertonix about there Chrysler model because most product descriptions say standard rotation. However tech support advised it will rotate both ways   (Just Incase folks run across this thread). I’m saving for an upgrade this winter and will hit ken up for help too. Thx
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Just out of curiosity, what did you do to make a RR gear fit your Pertronix distributor shaft?
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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

FYI. I called Pertonix about there Chrysler model because most product descriptions say standard rotation. However tech support advised it will rotate both ways   (Just Incase folks run across this thread). I’m saving for an upgrade this winter and will hit ken up for help too. Thx


Here's a little help you haven't asked for, but maybe it'll save you some aggravation

There's a reason most descriptions say "for standard rotation"

Click on the link below for some info on Chrysler RR distributors and the collar they used which then necessitated using a distributor with a longer shaft.

These days one of those long shaft distributors for RR is really really hard to find..............anywhere.

I'd figure Pertronix only has the short shaft distributor   

So..............don't ever get rid of your present distributor, even if you do find a replacement

It can always be rebuilt

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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

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Just out of curiosity, what did you do to make a RR gear fit your Pertronix distributor shaft?

I been removing the gear from the reverse distributor and putting on new distributor every time I have to change it.
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That's why I asked

I think you'll run into problems this time around.

The Prestolite and your other replacement Ford distributor shafts are .531 inches in diameter where the gear sits.

The Pertronx is .500 inches and Pertronix doesn't sell a RR gear for their distributor.

People have had to bush down a .531 gear to fit or drill out a 302 gear to fit. The 302 is .467 inches.

No real easy solution unless something has changed recently with their shaft sizing.
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

That's why I asked

I think you'll run into problems this time around.

The Prestolite and your other replacement Ford distributor shafts are .531 inches in diameter where the gear sits.

The Pertronx is .500 inches and Pertronix doesn't sell a RR gear for their distributor.

People have had to bush down a .531 gear to fit or drill out a 302 gear to fit. The 302 is .467 inches.

No real easy solution unless something has changed recently with their shaft sizing.

New I did not want to hear. I will be finding out this weekend when I hit the lake house. Is there another marine distributor (no points) that is reverse rotation for 351-W, or that my RR gear will fit? Cause I'll send this one back if I have to.
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Go to the link below for an old thread, the second post in that thread has a link to another thread with what I think is still a good list of what's out there.

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KENO.   Oh boy. Thanks much for links. Save my butt. I remember hearing there was an issue with rr gear. I found a rr Chrysler on Craigslist and bought the dist gear so I have two. Your comments have made me rethink new and looking into Rebiuld mine
I do not want to step on this thread but will take any other comments you can provide regarding 67 Chrysler LA318 RR marine distributors.
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A CCF thread that stays on track is about as hard to find as a RR Chrysler distributor

I think I'd get the original rebuilt and keep an eye out for another with the right length RR shaft.

It would make that guy Pete whatshisname happy too.

Your original may have a Chrysler tag and part number and also have a Prestolite tag on it. Chrysler just got them from Prestolite
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You'd think there would be a lot of Chrysler marine stuff out there,there had to be a lot of them made. Maybe their still going and not parted out yet
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

You'd think there would be a lot of Chrysler marine stuff out there,there had to be a lot of them made. Maybe their still going and not parted out yet


But try and find a new distributor with the right length RR shaft

PS I hope I can say "good job finding that Gary"
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New distributor? We don’t need no stinking new distributor....
There is only one thing here that is not running it’s original ignition and that is our 49 international cub. The mag went out, dad could not afford the down time so an IH distributor conversion was installed so it could earn its keep. That was probably 45 to 50 years ago- where does the time go??
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

That's why I asked

I think you'll run into problems this time around.

The Prestolite and your other replacement Ford distributor shafts are .531 inches in diameter where the gear sits.

The Pertronx is .500 inches and Pertronix doesn't sell a RR gear for their distributor.

People have had to bush down a .531 gear to fit or drill out a 302 gear to fit. The 302 is .467 inches.

No real easy solution unless something has changed recently with their shaft sizing.

Is there anything wrong with me using Prestolite distributor?
Other then its $400.
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Forget last posting. I just ordered a DUI from Discount inboard marine. With new set of wires. Will be here Friday. Only $550.00 But it is what I need, so be it :)
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Prestolite IBM-4109-s my Chrysler. I’m on the hunt if anyone has one for sale. I can do a ton of mechanical work I’ve restored 10 vintage Japanese motorcycle. But I’m not great with the timing, points, valve adjustment stuff   So a electronic distributor would make me rest easier.
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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Prestolite IBM-4109-s my Chrysler. I’m on the hunt if anyone has one for sale. I can do a ton of mechanical work I’ve restored 10 vintage Japanese motorcycle. But I’m not great with the timing, points, valve adjustment stuff   So a electronic distributor would make me rest easier.

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Using feeler gauges and a timing light is easy. Don't give up.


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Or you could be like Pete and cleverly tuck an electronic module under that cap if the rest of the distributor is in good shape

A picture of the distributor with the cap on and another with the cap off would be good to determine what would or wouldn't fit.
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Really appreciate encouragement, I’m gonna try. Found a old guy in Santa Rosa today that rebuilds starter and distributors. A refreshed points setup would be fine   Sure looks like mine has a raised collar.
Perhaps I’ve watched too many TV car shows where $100,000 car won’t start because of distributor whacked
His name is brownie electronic retired he is two weeks backlog so likely wait until fall. I want to test in lake couple more times this year
So far it works great but I can tell no love in 50 years so a looking at is in order
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RH = collar = longer shaft   
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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

RH = collar = longer shaft   


That's what I've seen

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