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    Posted: October-08-2019 at 8:23pm
I'm digging into my 78 Southwind 20 hull restoration, finding the floor, and sidewalls of engine compartment are rotten. I'm assuming the stringers are, or may be as well. Does anyone have any insight as to what the original materials of construction were. The floor was plywood, with a framed opening in solid wood around engine hatch. What about the engine compartment sidewalls? Beneath engine mounts? Stringers?

Were these hulls balsa core, or did CC use Klegecell (or some other rigid, closed cell foam)? I re-cored an EScow one time, and I don't think I'm up for that again. Looking for any experience related to how far is too far!

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Charlie,
I feel the rotten wood you have was Doug Fir for the mains, any type of pine for any other solid framing and then plywood. Nothing fancy.


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There is alot of insight here,have you tried a search? This one is one of the best Weeding the Pumkin Patch. Such an early effort which sadly used photobucket who are now holding the pictures hostage. There are no fancy composite construction on these Douglas Fir stringered Correct Crafts
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We are on the same page Pete! Is Ken's photobucket fix still working?
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Thanks guys, another great thread. I'm sorry photobucket hijacked the photos; they'd be helpful. I'll take pics of mine during dismantle.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

We are on the same page Pete! Is Ken's photobucket fix still working?


Ken would say.............sorta but not the way it used to

I go to Pete's "Proper prop installation" thread in the link below to see if it works.

Originally with the fix, the pictures were nice and clear, now they have that Photobucket symbol and they're grainy/fuzzy.

I'll have to round up the local "geek squad" and see if they can find a later version of the fix

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My "IT" professional did not want me to use that fix Ken so I never had it. That said I'm thinking I'm seeing the thread you linked the same as you
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

My "IT" professional did not want me to use that fix Ken so I never had it. That said I'm thinking I'm seeing the thread you linked the same as you


I just found a new fix that was dated Sept 2019 and Pete's pictures are clear again.

I think though that not all pictures show up depending on whether they're still on Photobucket or got removed maybe by the person who originally put them there.

I'll try and explain the new one in the morning or maybe put a link to it

Using the latest "fix" , I just looked at "Weeding the Pumpkin Patch" and the great majority of the pictures show up nice and clear again
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Here's a link to what I just found in the Google Web Store and added to Google Chrome that seems to have worked

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And....................I did it all by myself, so most anybody should be able to do the same
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

There is alot of insight here,have you tried a search? This one is one of the best Weeding the Pumkin Patch. Such an early effort which sadly used photobucket who are now holding the pictures hostage. There are no fancy composite construction on these Douglas Fir stringered Correct Crafts


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NP Greg great to see you still around,hope all is well
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NP Greg great to see you still around,hope all is well


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Wow, the one and only Greg from the past! Glad to see you're still with us Greg.


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Last year I looked all over for Douglass Fur and couldn't find it for less than 150 per board.
I settled for Southern yellow pine heavily coated with CPES. I have another stringer job to do next year . Does anyone have a Doug Fur source anywhere neat Georgia?
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https://sweetwaterlumber.com/Home

It's been a few years since I was there, but they had enough to board up New York at the time.
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Greg I used your thread to refer Mike to Sweetwater. Check around 10 comments and the answers past that. link Prices obviously have gone up, but how much? Do you remember what you paid?
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I don't remember what I paid. Price wasn't the target. I can dig the receipt if needed,

I bought 4/4 and 8/4 and machined all of it. Yes, I cheated because I had the tools.

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Stray thought; going tight on stringer material means you can't afford the rest of the job.
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Thanks Greg
I will check with them Monday . I got a quote 1 or 2 years ago but I don't know if it was them. It amounted to 450.00 for just the stringers for a 67 Mustang. I went with Southern Yellow Pine for 60.00
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This time around I am thinking of laminating 2-3/4 and 1-1/2 inch marine grade plywood to build the stringers and use standard lumber for the load bearing engine supports.
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I have another stringer job to do next year .


Another Stringer Job?????? Did you add one to the Hunter Fleet???


Greg, Good to see your name Pop up. You've been mentioned several times throughout the CCFan gatherings.... Nice to see you pop your head in the window.

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Originally posted by Morfoot Morfoot wrote:

[QUOTE=Nautiquehunter] I have another stringer job to do next year .


Another Stringer Job?????? Did you add one to the Hunter Fleet???


Greg, Good to see your name Pop up. You've been mentioned several times throughout the CCFan gatherings.... Nice to see you pop your head in the window.
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Yes up to 6 . I wont start the new one until the Mustang is done.
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